Who is the greater boxer: Floyd or Ali?

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  • DonTaseMeBrah
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    #51
    Originally posted by street bully
    You forgot his Shavers in Hatton.
    Originally posted by Makavelli
    didnt you know? FLoyd has already faced his Foreman in Corrales, his Frazier in Castillo, and his Liston in Bruseles
    hold on brahs, dont forget baldomir as his hagler & oscar his tommy hearns. you know how he was outweighed by 10 plus pounds, linear champ, & he had to use pillow gloves.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #52
      Originally posted by GetSumBrah
      more like to cement his undefeated record vs the deepest division of boxing at the time of his retirement.





      How many are true hall of fame fighers in mr.counterfeit cash's resume?

      2.

      old oscar & 36 year old marquez who is a career feather who has to move up 2 divisions for the fight.

      The best fighter in mr.counterfeit cash's record is a 36 year old career featherweight fightng at 144.

      How this guy is considered a ATG is beyond me.
      Best names in his resume is Corrales and JLC, more so then DLH.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #53
        Originally posted by The_Executioner
        That's irrelevant...if they were wins then they are wins...

        And Floyd is at the tail end of ATG rankings...while Ali is at the top...
        No, it is relevant.It makes a big difference whether a fighter is getting close ud/sd wins against good comp or getting ko's and tko's against the same level of fighters. He has great skill and ability but has not done enough for ATG status.

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          #54
          Originally posted by GetSumBrah

          How this guy is considered a ATG is beyond me.
          You don't have to have ATG's on your resume to be an ATG...Whitaker doesn't have any on his resume...outside of Pernell, Oscar doesn't either...

          And neither does Julio Cesar Chavez...

          You can build your resume to that level off of good, very good, and great fighters...

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          • Jiddu Dali
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            #55
            Originally posted by Smokin'J
            it ain't bragging if you can back it up and Ali sure as hell did back it up
            and Mayweather hasnt?

            Mayweather has been a **** talker for 6 fights and Ali was his entire career....you people think mayweathers mouth is anywhere near Ali's?

            lmao

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            • street bully
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              #56
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              You don't have to have ATG's on your resume to be an ATG...Whitaker doesn't have any on his resume...outside of Pernell, Oscar doesn't either...

              And neither does Julio Cesar Chavez...

              You can build your resume to that level off of good, very good, and great fighters...
              Pernel beat Chavez and Buddy McGirt. Better than anybody on Floyd weak ass resume. HBO was sayign how Hatton gave Floyd more trouble than almost anybody. Floyd IMO is the best WW today, but he isn't that great.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #57
                Originally posted by The_Executioner
                You don't have to have ATG's on your resume to be an ATG...Whitaker doesn't have any on his resume...outside of Pernell, Oscar doesn't either...

                And neither does Julio Cesar Chavez...

                You can build your resume to that level off of good, very good, and great fighters...
                Pernell Whitaker has JCC and Azumah Nelson.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  No, it is relevant.It makes a big difference whether a fighter is getting close ud/sd wins against good comp or getting ko's and tko's against the same level of fighters. He has great skill and ability but has not done enough for ATG status.
                  You can have your opinion...Corrales is considered one of his best wins...he ran him over...he knocked out Hatton...he ran over Genaro Hernandez...

                  Wat close fights are you referring to? One fight with Castillo...the Oscar fight was competitive but its clear who the winner was...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    Pernel beat Chavez and Buddy McGirt. Better than anybody on Floyd weak ass resume. HBO was sayign how Hatton gave Floyd more trouble than almost anybody. Floyd IMO is the best WW today, but he isn't that great.
                    Buddy McGirt is an all time great? Floyd is way greater then Buddy McGirt~

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      Pernel beat Chavez and Buddy McGirt. Better than anybody on Floyd weak ass resume. HBO was sayign how Hatton gave Floyd more trouble than almost anybody. Floyd IMO is the best WW today, but he isn't that great.
                      That's Floyd 4th division. What else can you ask expect and is Floyd done?

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