Dillian Whyte should not just accept 20%. F the WBC

[Toffee]

WBC, WBA, IBF has already schooled you on the rules and regs. There’s no point me parroting the same reasons. You either don’t have the intelligence to understand them or your bias won’t allow you to accept them.

August/September last year Jamel Herring was ordered to only 33% against Stevenson. I don’t remember you having the same energy as you do for your boy Whyte.

The WBC modification of the split isn't covered in their rules. Except that they have some catch all statements saying they can do what they want.

The WBO order was precisely in accordance with their rules. The formula is laid out in detail. They didn't really on 'we can do what we want' rules.

Stevenson and Herring both paid sanctioning fees and received a ruling in line with what was documented.

Whyte has paid sanctioning fees and received a ruling that isn't documented in the WBC rules anywhere.

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I haven't changed my tune. There's a rule in place for splits that has been ignored in favour of a rule that is basically 'we can ignore any of our rules'. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm not sure how lawful these rules that say we can ignore rule X to do whatever we want are. That's why I'd be happy for Dillian to complete the abritration. If he loses, so be it. If he wins... Just helps make boxing a better place. We should all support the fight against it - you agree it's nonsense too

I’ve said this all along the government should be investigating these guys and step in there’s more then enough dirt going around here to prove a corruption ring hidden in the rules in attempts to have no actual rules in place if they don’t want to obide by them . I know there has to be some legal formalities here .

[Toffee]

I’ve said this all along the government should be investigating these guys and step in there’s more then enough dirt going around here to prove a corruption ring hidden in the rules in attempts to have no actual rules in place if they don’t want to obide by them . I know there has to be some legal formalities here .

The legal discussion will be interesting to watch play out.

But I'm hoping that the more significant development will be if fighters start opting not to box for the WBC.

Who would pay sanctioning fees under a set of rules and regulations when they have a history pulling the rug and simply changing their rules?

There's a contract between fighter and organisation. The org offers their conditions and requests a payment, the fighters accept the offer and pay the required price.

Even in a landscape of boxing organisations, the WBC stand out as the one you wouldn't trust.

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The legal discussion will be interesting to watch play out.

But I'm hoping that the more significant development will be if fighters start opting not to box for the WBC.

Who would pay sanctioning fees under a set of rules and regulations when they have a history pulling the rug and simply changing their rules?

There's a contract between fighter and organisation. The org offers their conditions and requests a payment, the fighters accept the offer and pay the required price.

Even in a landscape of boxing organisations, the WBC stand out as the one you wouldn't trust.

I get why Whyte had a long wait as mandatory,but everything after that even after his Povetkin win has been a farce where they were still reluctant to award him his mandatory spot back and had wait for that . They didn’t even give him his Diamond belt back I don’t think ?

[just the facts]

I’ve said this all along the government should be investigating these guys and step in there’s more then enough dirt going around here to prove a corruption ring hidden in the rules in attempts to have no actual rules in place if they don’t want to obide by them . I know there has to be some legal formalities here .

Who’s government?

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Who’s government?

WBC is based in the states isn’t it ? Our government always steps in with sports corruption wheather it be paid judges or fixed fights . There’s got to be a law if illegal activities are going on .

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The WBC modification of the split isn't covered in their rules. Except that they have some catch all statements saying they can do what they want.

The WBO order was precisely in accordance with their rules. The formula is laid out in detail. They didn't really on 'we can do what we want' rules.

Stevenson and Herring both paid sanctioning fees and received a ruling in line with what was documented.

Whyte has paid sanctioning fees and received a ruling that isn't documented in the WBC rules anywhere.

So it is in their rules then…

Their rules are their rules, the split is the split. Whyte either wants to fight Fury for the WBC title or he doesn’t and based on his actions he evidently doesn’t.

Whyte’s already rejected two eliminators and a direct title shot vs AJ for multimillions in which he claimed “he was lowballed” and here he is whining like a b**** again. He’s the boy who cried wolf yet some either naive or delusional people continue to believe him and his nonsense.

[Marchegiano]

WBC is based in the states isn’t it ? Our government always steps in with sports corruption wheather it be paid judges or fixed fights . There’s got to be a law if illegal activities are going on .

No

I understand the confusion given the history but the WBC is a hereditary succession lead private not-for-profit organization based out of Mexico. Mexico City Mexico. Not been American since the NYSAC was the body as well as commission.

Out of Mexico, President Sully is president because his daddy was.

[Toffee]

So it is in their rules then…

Their rules are their rules, the split is the split. Whyte either wants to fight Fury for the WBC title or he doesn’t and based on his actions he evidently doesn’t.

Whyte’s already rejected two eliminators and a direct title shot vs AJ for multimillions in which he claimed “he was lowballed” and here he is whining like a b**** again. He’s the boy who cried wolf yet some either naive or delusional people continue to believe him and his nonsense.

No, it's not in the WBC rules regarding splits. This outcome is specifically excluded from the possibilities.

The WBO rules cover past purses being used to calculate the split in instances such as this. The WBC could have chosen to have that in their rules, but they didn't. They chose to go with 70/30 with special consideration given if the challenger is a particularly noteworthy commercial draw.

Then they also have rules that say they can do whatever they want. I can't understand what kind of boxing fan would think that's a good thing and support it just because it fits their particular biases in this instance.

If this was a voluntary then the split would be as negotiated and Fury is a bigger draw and holds the aces. I could understand if Fury offered 80/20, take it or leave it. Hell, I could understand him offering 90/10. It's a voluntary. I'm no Whyte fan, though I would be in this fight as I think it's a better chance of producing a unification.

This is about the WBC taking fees for dumb belts on the understanding that it produces a certain outcome. That outcome is a mandatory fight for the percentages laid out in their regulations. I can understand Whyte asking for 45% under their regulations and I can understand why that won't be ordered. I can't understand why the WBC would move away from their defined splits.

And don't talk to me about past purses. Forget about Fury and Whyte for a second... It's a mandatory. An ordered fight. They're the ones the champion has to take to continue to be a champion. It's the sporting element within prizefighting. Then make your money off making voluntary fights that make more commercial sense. This decision allows the WBC to protect their champion by setting purses that challengers won't accept. You'll get titlists racking up huge numbers of defences against opponents of their choosing. It's not right and shouldn't be accepted by boxing fans.

Unless, you know, it suits your agenda.

[just the facts]

WBC is based in the states isn’t it ? Our government always steps in with sports corruption wheather it be paid judges or fixed fights . There’s got to be a law if illegal activities are going on .

No. The WBC is based in Mexico. I would have bet every boxing fan knew this.