Dillian Whyte should not just accept 20%. F the WBC

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  • just the facts
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    #91
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    So it is in their rules then…

    Their rules are their rules, the split is the split. Whyte either wants to fight Fury for the WBC title or he doesn’t and based on his actions he evidently doesn’t.

    Whyte’s already rejected two eliminators and a direct title shot vs AJ for multimillions in which he claimed “he was lowballed” and here he is whining like a b**** again. He’s the boy who cried wolf yet some either naive or delusional people continue to believe him and his nonsense.
    I’ve posted it twice here already but it’s worth repeating. If team Whyte thought he could beat Fury, they’d jump on the 20%. What they’re trying to do is get paid as much as they can to lose.

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    • Toffee
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      #92
      Originally posted by just the facts

      I’ve posted it twice here already but it’s worth repeating. If team Whyte thought he could beat Fury, they’d jump on the 20%. What they’re trying to do is get paid as much as they can to lose.
      It wasn't really worth repeating.

      No-one takes less than they think they can get. Whether they're confident or not. It makes no sense. None.

      Fury should just take 70%, get his mandatory or of the way, and move onto unification. Right?

      No, they all want as much money as possible. As do you and every other person in the world. They're getting money to get hit in the head by trained 250+ pound fighters. I don't blame them.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Toffee

        No, it's not in the WBC rules regarding splits. This outcome is specifically excluded from the possibilities.

        The WBO rules cover past purses being used to calculate the split in instances such as this. The WBC could have chosen to have that in their rules, but they didn't. They chose to go with 70/30 with special consideration given if the challenger is a particularly noteworthy commercial draw.

        Then they also have rules that say they can do whatever they want. I can't understand what kind of boxing fan would think that's a good thing and support it just because it fits their particular biases in this instance.

        If this was a voluntary then the split would be as negotiated and Fury is a bigger draw and holds the aces. I could understand if Fury offered 80/20, take it or leave it. Hell, I could understand him offering 90/10. It's a voluntary. I'm no Whyte fan, though I would be in this fight as I think it's a better chance of producing a unification.

        This is about the WBC taking fees for dumb belts on the understanding that it produces a certain outcome. That outcome is a mandatory fight for the percentages laid out in their regulations. I can understand Whyte asking for 45% under their regulations and I can understand why that won't be ordered. I can't understand why the WBC would move away from their defined splits.

        And don't talk to me about past purses. Forget about Fury and Whyte for a second... It's a mandatory. An ordered fight. They're the ones the champion has to take to continue to be a champion. It's the sporting element within prizefighting. Then make your money off making voluntary fights that make more commercial sense. This decision allows the WBC to protect their champion by setting purses that challengers won't accept. You'll get titlists racking up huge numbers of defences against opponents of their choosing. It's not right and shouldn't be accepted by boxing fans.

        Unless, you know, it suits your agenda.
        The WBC are well within their right to amend the split.

        Whyte can take his 20% or he can get off the pot. It’s that simple.

        People are only crying about it because of the fighters involved, and it’s essentially just AJ, Whyte or Matchroom fans who have a problem with it.

        The Herring-Stevenson split was far, far, far more egregious- yet people didn’t have the same energy for that.

        80/20 is actually pretty fair IMO, 20% will be a big pay day for Whyte, but he clearly doesn’t want the fight, just like he didn’t want the AJ rematch or two different eliminators.

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        • M312
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          #94
          Originally posted by REDEEMER

          I’ve said this all along the government should be investigating these guys and step in there’s more then enough dirt going around here to prove a corruption ring hidden in the rules in attempts to have no actual rules in place if they don’t want to obide by them . I know there has to be some legal formalities here .
          Exactly.

          I hope Dillian follows through and destroys these knobs.

          I don't understand why anyone would support them, even if they hate Whyte.

          Anyone fighting the WBC has my vote.

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            #95
            Originally posted by just the facts

            I’ve posted it twice here already but it’s worth repeating. If team Whyte thought he could beat Fury, they’d jump on the 20%. What they’re trying to do is get paid as much as they can to lose.
            That's just silly. You wouldn't work for less than the rules/law says for whatever you do in the real world, would you?

            Surely we all agree that the WBC need to be brought down a peg or two? Stop trying to justify why their nonsense (you have already said it's nonsense) is OK and support the fight against them - Doesn't matter how much you hate Whyte.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Marchegiano

              No

              I understand the confusion given the history but the WBC is a hereditary succession lead private not-for-profit organization based out of Mexico. Mexico City Mexico. Not been American since the NYSAC was the body as well as commission.

              Out of Mexico, President Sully is president because his daddy was.
              They must obide by state athletic commissions otherwise they would be their own league ,no ? If there’s over corruption in sports the government usually does an internal investigation and the WBC is a part of the sanctioned bodies each operates . I can’t see how they could be not accountable if any illegal activity is going on .
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-11-2022, 09:28 PM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by M312

                That's just silly. You wouldn't work for less than the rules/law says for whatever you do in the real world, would you?

                Surely we all agree that the WBC need to be brought down a peg or two? Stop trying to justify why their nonsense (you have already said it's nonsense) is OK and support the fight against them - Doesn't matter how much you hate Whyte.
                If I don’t make the money I want for a job, I go get a different job. However, if a job doesn’t pay what I want and I think that by taking it, it will lead to big money jobs. On the other side of the coin, if a job doesn’t pay what I want and I don’t think it will lead to big money jobs in the future, I’ll pass. That’s essentially what team Whyte is doing. They don’t believe Whyte will win. That’s obvious.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by M312

                  That's just silly. You wouldn't work for less than the rules/law says for whatever you do in the real world, would you?

                  Surely we all agree that the WBC need to be brought down a peg or two? Stop trying to justify why their nonsense (you have already said it's nonsense) is OK and support the fight against them - Doesn't matter how much you hate Whyte.
                  On a separate issue, the WBC isn’t going to change their rules if I (or you) support them or not.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Toffee

                    It wasn't really worth repeating.

                    No-one takes less than they think they can get. Whether they're confident or not. It makes no sense. None.

                    Fury should just take 70%, get his mandatory or of the way, and move onto unification. Right?

                    No, they all want as much money as possible. As do you and every other person in the world. They're getting money to get hit in the head by trained 250+ pound fighters. I don't blame them.
                    It was worth repeating.

                    Fighters do take less when they think it will lead to more down the road. Floyd did it vs Oscar, Canelo did it vs Floyd. Whyte isn’t a special enough fighter to pass on this opportunity. If team Whyte thought he could beat Fury, they’d jump on the offer. They obviously don’t.

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                      #100
                      Whyte could retire today and I wouldn’t feel like I missed anything.

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