A statement I am making on the behalf of Luis King Kong Ortiz

[DaNeutral.]

I would like to say on behalf of Luis Ortiz "FKK YOU AL HAYMON".

Luis Ortiz could of had a way better Career than he has had but we all know what Haymon was doing with him. He would never allow Ortiz in with the better non PBC heavies just incase they did a better job on him than Deontay Wilder did as they were Wilder flagship victories, his claims to greatness, and they pushed the "Bogeyman" BS and claimed everybody was ducking him when nobody actually was.

It was most obvious when they lied to team Joshua about him being on vacation with his family so couldn't fight AJ and made no attempts at all to inform Ortiz or his trainers of an offer even though they were in the gym preparing for the opportunity should it arise.

Then you got Dillian Whyte offering him a PPV headline shot for millions in the UK but Ortiz management refused but counter offered with an undercard slot in America for less than 1 million which is a ridiculous counter offer and then claimed Whyte ducked by refusing it cuz his offer was way better.

God knows who else has been scared off fighting Ortiz just so they could keep Wilder's wins looking great, I know other top fighters have been open to facing him . Al Haymon and the cult of PBC have stunted Ortiz career to enhance a bigger money maker and lied to him along the way to do it.

[Earl-Hickey]

I have to figure Ortiz has been taken care of financially by Haymon, else I doubt he would have stayed with him as long as he has.

[DaNeutral.]

I have to figure Ortiz has been taken care of financially by Haymon, else I doubt he would have stayed with him as long as he has.

I will never forgive the PBC for lying to him and his team regarding the Joshua fight. I'm a big Joshua fan but I'm a bigger Boxing fan and judging on what Ruiz did to Joshua at MSG I'm sure Ortiz could of done it too and become a unified world champion, a dream for him I am sure. You dont lie to your fighter like that, its an absolutely disgusting move.

[QueensburyRules]

I would like to say on behalf of Luis Ortiz "FKK YOU AL HAYMON".

Luis Ortiz could of had a way better Career than he has had but we all know what Haymon was doing with him. He would never allow Ortiz in with the better non PBC heavies just incase they did a better job on him than Deontay Wilder did as they were Wilder flagship victories, his claims to greatness, and they pushed the "Bogeyman" BS and claimed everybody was ducking him when nobody actually was.

It was most obvious when they lied to team Joshua about him being on vacation with his family so couldn't fight AJ and made no attempts at all to inform Ortiz or his trainers of an offer even though they were in the gym preparing for the opportunity should it arise.

Then you got Dillian Whyte offering him a PPV headline shot for millions in the UK but Ortiz management refused but counter offered with an undercard slot in America for less than 1 million which is a ridiculous counter offer and then claimed Whyte ducked by refusing it cuz his offer was way better.

God knows who else has been scared off fighting Ortiz just so they could keep Wilder's wins looking great, I know other top fighters have been open to facing him . Al Haymon and the cult of PBC have stunted Ortiz career to enhance a bigger money maker and lied to him along the way to do it.

- - The Cuban Cabal that these defecting Cuban fighters come under has to be as much or more a problem than Uncle Al for whom fighters are just the tools used in a larger business move to fill the vacuum of the dwindling now 90 yr old Arum's Top Rank. They cant draw flies because of their stereotypes as runner/stinkers, ie Lady Lara and Rigomortis. Ortiz was further set back with a failed drug test showing anabolic steroids.

Vs Deyonce he exposed his woeful lack of boxing skills, had him hurt, yet couldn't seal the deal even in the rematch. His Uncle Al has at least overpaid him enough to take vacations with his family.

Deyonce as the former last US Olympic medalist was always a financial front runner over any Cuban in his painfully slow ascent as a contender. Of these defector Cubanos, has there ever been a popular one with the public? It's almost like their own fellow Cubanos don't support them even in Florida.

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It's crazy how much influence Al Haymon has in this game.

[DaNeutral.]

It's crazy how much influence Al Haymon has in this game.

That's why I call it a cult. He does seem to really look after his top stars financially all be it at the expense or striving for greatness. But then we hear about the rest of his stable just being nothing but pawns in his "game of chess" he is chitting on these lower guys and they are free to walk away but they usually stick around, that's why I call it a cult.

It's like the cult documentaries that I watch. The ones inside can't sing the cults praises enough but those that leave and criminal investigations show what ugly antics is really going on inside.

Not to mention they usually end up dead by mass suicide in a field somewhere.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ortiz has been with Oscar and Hearn too. What exactly did they do for him?
Haymon was the only guy who delivered him two world title shots.

[Toffee]

I will never forgive the PBC for lying to him and his team regarding the Joshua fight. I'm a big Joshua fan but I'm a bigger Boxing fan and judging on what Ruiz did to Joshua at MSG I'm sure Ortiz could of done it too and become a unified world champion, a dream for him I am sure. You dont lie to your fighter like that, its an absolutely disgusting move.

It's a long bow to draw that Ortiz would beat Joshua. He's not beaten anyone within levels of Joshua.

But completely agree that Ortiz never got any kind of chance to show whether he was a top level fighter. He was built for Wilder and kept for Wilder.

To be fair though, plenty of fighters don't get the opportunity to be their best. They get fed to someone early, or they get a manufactured resume for someone else's benefit. Very few are built for their own success. But they get paid what they earn. If you want more, make better choices. Not everyone can be the best.

[The Big Dunn]

Ortiz has been with Oscar and Hearn too. What exactly did they do for him?
Haymon was the only guy who delivered him two world title shots.

Came in to post this.

[The Big Dunn]

I will never forgive the PBC for lying to him and his team regarding the Joshua fight. I'm a big Joshua fan but I'm a bigger Boxing fan and judging on what Ruiz did to Joshua at MSG I'm sure Ortiz could of done it too and become a unified world champion, a dream for him I am sure. You dont lie to your fighter like that, its an absolutely disgusting move.

How do you know he lied to him? You’re literally making things up with no proof just to force them into your anti black, anti American agenda.

Ortiz was with other promoters. He left them, went to Haymon. He has never expressed anything I’ve seen other than being happy he’s with pbc.

Notice the posters co-signing this are other Brits who seem to share the same agenda.

You Brits are furious that boxers like working for pbc and haven’t left to work for Hearn.