The anti-Hearn idiots are TERRIBLE for boxing.

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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    The WBC's support of Canelo was ultimately proven to be correct as the world learned more about tainted meat in Mexico. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the levels in Canelo's system would now be legal under the current rules, yes?
    The world already knew everything it needed to know about tainted meat in Mexico back then. And more to the point, so did Canelo and his trainer.

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      #32
      Originally posted by kafkod

      Unlike the major US promoters, Eddie Hearn has no way to pressure fighters who work with him into accepting fights they don't want. If GGG or Andrade don't want to fight each other, Eddie just has to accept that.
      I highly doubt that. He can use his position with DAZN to have them base purses in quality of comp.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        I highly doubt that. He can use his position with DAZN to have them base purses in quality of comp.
        GGG has his own contract with DAZN, independent of Hearn. Andrade has an awkward, sometimes negative - but very effective - style and a miniscule fan base. Not the kind of opponent DAZN are going to be falling over themselves to push GGG into fighting.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kafkod

          GGG has his own contract with DAZN, independent of Hearn. Andrade has an awkward, sometimes negative - but very effective - style and a miniscule fan base. Not the kind of opponent DAZN are going to be falling over themselves to push GGG into fighting.
          Why did Hearn go silent about matching Bivol and Zurdo Ramirez in 2021, despite Ramirez' constant call outs?

          They are both on DAZN.

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            #35
            Originally posted by kafkod
            VADA and UKAD disagree with you on that.
            No, they actually don't. Neither has offered any reasonable explanation for why Whyte would have anabolic steroids in his system.


            • There is nothing in Mr Whyte's longitudinal urinary profile to suggest that he has used steroids.
            This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means they hadn't caught him before.


            • The levels of the metabolites found in Mr Whyte's 20 June 2019 sample were extremely low.
            This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. It just means he mistimes his cycle or was surprised by the test.


            • Mr Whyte had provided a urine sample to VADA on 17 June 2019, i.e. 3 days before his 20 June 2019 sample, which was tested by a WADA-accredited laboratory and which returned a negative result, including for the metabolites in question.
            This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means he thought it was safe to cycle again because he had just been tested and didn't expect another test so soon.


            • Mr Whyte provided several other doping control samples to UKAD and VADA between 20 June and 20 July 2019 (i.e. the date of his fight with Oscar Rivas) - all of which also tested negative.
            This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means he was expecting tests once the fight was so close.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

              No, they actually don't. Neither has offered any reasonable explanation for why Whyte would have anabolic steroids in his system.




              This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means they hadn't caught him before.




              This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. It just means he mistimes his cycle or was surprised by the test.




              This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means he thought it was safe to cycle again because he had just been tested and didn't expect another test so soon.




              This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means he was expecting tests once the fight was so close.
              It seems by his continuous freedom to keep fighting that they do not have the requirement to provide you with an explanation, EVEN when you repeat it 4 times in 1 post.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Why did Hearn go silent about matching Bivol and Zurdo Ramirez in 2021, despite Ramirez' constant call outs?

                They are both on DAZN.
                I suspect because Bivol and his team are hoping to land the Canelo sweepstakes. Talks of them two has gone back a couple years now where supposedly they nearly came to an agreement on everything but the catchweight. So you can understand thier hesitancy to face Zurdo,who honestly brings nothing to the table as of yet.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Why did Hearn go silent about matching Bivol and Zurdo Ramirez in 2021, despite Ramirez' constant call outs?

                  They are both on DAZN.
                  They aren't both with Matchroom though and they are both in divisions Canelo is active in.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                    No, they actually don't. Neither has offered any reasonable explanation for why Whyte would have anabolic steroids in his system.




                    This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means they hadn't caught him before.




                    This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. It just means he mistimes his cycle or was surprised by the test.




                    This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system. This just means he thought it was safe to cycle again because he had just been tested and didn't expect another test so soon.




                    This is not an explanation for why there were anabolic steroids in his system.
                    You "forgot" to mention the conclusion of UKAD's statement, made after Whyte's test results were examined by the NAPD, an independent panel of experts in sports science and sports medicine:

                    "In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping."

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      It seems by his continuous freedom to keep fighting that they do not have the requirement to provide you with an explanation, EVEN when you repeat it 4 times in 1 post.
                      I never said they were required to provide an explanation. I'm just pointing out that all four of their "reasons" for clearing him fail to explain why he had anabolic steroids in his system and all four of their "reasons" don't actually indicate innocence at all if you understand how doping works.

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