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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #191
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    So the masses are going to go out in droves because he’s the self proclaimed lineal champion ? I hope your a better story teller in real life .

    And no that’s opinion not a fact ,you have trouble distinguishing with the two .

    Are we on kindergarten level mentality now again ? If we had a poster most obsessed with a fighter on here trying to bring him down you’d also be the winner concerning Whyte ,you sound like a little boy .
    The masses will come out in enough numbers to fill T-Mobile Arena I reckon. Especially after seeing the Wilder trilogy.

    But even if for some reason they didn't...casino site fee money and American PPV revenue alone are enough to make this a more profitable proposition than Shyte in the UK.

    That's the reality. And it won't change no matter how much you hate Tyson Fury.

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      #192
      Originally posted by Blackstarr
      Ring magazine is more meaningless than your opinion is it? Your sense of self-importance while posting anonymously is laughable.
      Yes, because Ring Magazine is literally owned by a promoter and numerous Ring employees went public about the promoter interfering with the ratings and corrupting the ratings, Ring Magazine is absolutely meaningless.

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        #193
        Originally posted by Blackstarr

        Whyte’s dispute is predominantly over what the purse split will be, and this is only an issue because Fury is nowhere close to giving him what his entitled split would be as interim champion. Fury’s team could end all this arbitration nonsense by offering a 35-40% split.

        Now you could argue this is excessive, but Hearn and AJ have been overpaying all this time and nobody complained, so what’s the issue? And what other palatable choice does Fury have? What top rated HW will fight Fury for the money Whyte is being offered, when there is no belt on the line and it involves risking a likely loss on their resume?
        That just seems like a weak argument to me. Also, if Whyte turns down an offer what makes you think the sanctioning body won't recognize Fury's second choice?

        ​​​​​​https://www.the-sun.com/sport/435657...yte-mandatory/

        Granted, this may not be the world's most reliable source but it seems logical.

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          #194
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          The masses will come out in enough numbers to fill T-Mobile Arena I reckon. Especially after seeing the Wilder trilogy.

          But even if for some reason they didn't...casino site fee money and American PPV revenue alone are enough to make this a more profitable proposition than Shyte in the UK.

          That's the reality. And it won't change no matter how much you hate Tyson Fury.
          Again talking non facts it’s what you envision but Furys track record doesn’t support that in non title fights .

          Your a huge Fury fan now ? You basically took your Wilder rhetoric and now use it here to apply to Fury where facts are hating . You practically lobbied against him everyday trying to get the A. J undisputed fight you clown but I’m the hater ?
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-29-2021, 01:12 PM.

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            #195
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            Yes, because Ring Magazine is literally owned by a promoter and numerous Ring employees went public about the promoter interfering with the ratings and corrupting the ratings, Ring Magazine is absolutely meaningless.
            Bsht!!!

            They have Fury #1 and he's with Top Rank

            Breidis #1

            Charlo #1

            Taylor #1

            List goes on and on. Your crazy

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              #196
              Originally posted by 4truth

              That just seems like a weak argument to me. Also, if Whyte turns down an offer what makes you think the sanctioning body won't recognize Fury's second choice?

              ​​​​​​https://www.the-sun.com/sport/435657...yte-mandatory/

              Granted, this may not be the world's most reliable source but it seems logical.
              It’s not a weak argument though - AJ and Hearn have set new norms in what the market pay is for top HW fights, have they not? If the then no-name Ruiz was getting over $7m to challenge AJ for 3 belts, how tf is it greedy for Whyte to demand £7.5m to challenge Fury? Especially when he has already been headlining PPvs and making £4m already fighting the likes of Parker and Povetkin in lower profile fights?

              As you’ve already alluded to, I wouldn’t use The Sun as a reliable source for anything. Arum in this very article has indicated it will be a non WBC sanctioned fight, and logically it would make no sense for the belt to be available if the WBC are locked in arbitration with Whyte, so common sense would dictate that the belt won’t be on the line.

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                #197
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                A Fury vs Ruiz PPV in Las Vegas would bring in more revenue than a UK fight between Fury and Shyte.

                That's just the way it is.
                Betting wise they're only giving Whyte a 18% chance to win and the fool is wanting 45% split. That sht ain't happening.

                They offered him 20% which is still $2-4 million.

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Arthur Daley
                  It's not about Whyte's % it's more about Hearn winning the bid and have control of the fight.
                  Sure. But can we both agree that in that scenario, Whyte won't be paid $10 million?

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Blackstarr

                    It’s not a weak argument though - AJ and Hearn have set new norms in what the market pay is for top HW fights, have they not? If the then no-name Ruiz was getting over $7m to challenge AJ for 3 belts, how tf is it greedy for Whyte to demand £7.5m to challenge Fury? Especially when he has already been headlining PPvs and making £4m already fighting the likes of Parker and Povetkin in lower profile fights?

                    As you’ve already alluded to, I wouldn’t use The Sun as a reliable source for anything. Arum in this very article has indicated it will be a non WBC sanctioned fight, and logically it would make no sense for the belt to be available if the WBC are locked in arbitration with Whyte, so common sense would dictate that the belt won’t be on the line.
                    AJ makes ****** money. AJ can afford to be ****** with the split, there's more than enough left over.

                    Fury isn't blessed like that. He has to actually pay a percentage that makes sense.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER

                      Again talking non facts it’s what you envision but Furys track record doesn’t support that in non title fights .

                      Your a huge Fury fan now ? You basically took your Wilder rhetoric and now use it here to apply to Fury where facts are hating . You practically lobbied against him everyday trying to get the A. J undisputed fight you clown but I’m the hater ?
                      Tyson Fury is at a new level after the Wilder trilogy.

                      The fact that I am a Wilder fan but can still give Fury full credit just shows that I am objective. You should try it some time.

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