Comments Thread For: Arum Slams Whyte's Demands For Fury Fight: Now Considering Ruiz, Helenius As Opponents

[M312]

And Fury has NEVER been stopped by a lardo or slapped around by a cruiser weight.

Not for nothing but what I read claims Fury made 16-18 million for the third Wilder fight.

We should bare in mind that most reports suggest Top Rank/PBC lost money on these fights because the contracts for both were too big to cover the costs.

Did Tyson make a lot of money? Probably. But mainly due to his contract gaurantee, not actual sales.

Thats probably another reason they are trying to find people who will take a small %. They are struggling to break even at this point.

Better off losing the purse and let someone else cover the costs.

[The Ninth Layer]

Some crazy posts in this thread.

People posting that Fury made $6 million on the third Wilder fight, no way lol. Whether the fight sold 650k or only 300k buys, at $80 a buy it's pretty simple math to figure out the event revenue. Do people think Fury got paid $6 million, Wilder got some fraction of that, and Bob Arum kept $15 million+ for himself? Lmao sorry there's no way.

People posting the Usyk-Joshua winner will go for a Whyte fight for a vacated belt instead of a Fury fight with no belt on the line, no way lol. That just doesn't make sense at all. Fury-Joshua was the match to make right up until Usyk came into the picture. When the dust settles between Usyk and Joshua the winner against Fury will be the match to make. I don't know how anyone could think otherwise unless they are related to or employed by Whyte. Whoever wins the Usyk-Joshua rematch is going to want to take that momentum into the biggest money fight they can get, not take a detour for a vacated belt for a hollow legacy accomplishment they won't get much credit for.

Some guy said up thread that Whyte should somehow rush Tyson Fury into a 4 week camp for a February fight, this will never happen lmao. Joshua-Usyk is likely for April last I heard, so Fury has the entire spring season to work with. It's insane to me that an actual boxing fan would post something like this.

I'm a US boxing fan so I have no idea how popular Whyte might be at home. Maybe he's some hugely massive sports star in the UK and I just haven't heard, the only people who have seen him fight here are guys like me that pay a monthly sub fee to watch international boxing streams at 2pm on saturday afternoons. To me he's the guy who lost to Joshua, got starched by Povetkin, and has spent the last two years moaning about how it's unfair the heavyweight titleholders are fighting each other in massive high-demand matches and not some guy who got knocked out fighting for a regional title. I don't care one way or the other if he gets a world title shot, he's just some guy and imo the heavyweight division has a lot of guys just like him. If he fights Fury I'll pay money to see it, but it's not a $50 million fight here, and I highly doubt it's a $50 million dollar fight in the UK.

Idk maybe you British guys think the reason Fury vs Joshua was such a lucrative matchup these last two years because both guys are british??? and not because they're both considered by many to be the best in the world????? Does anyone here think Saudi oil barons are going to put up nine-digit offers to host a Dillian Whyte fight????? lmao

[Blackstarr]

I'm not sure who other than you would perceive Whyte as a better win. Whyte was knocked out cold just last year by an ancient Povetkin. Whyte has never held a world title. Ruiz is a former unified IBF/Super WBA/WBO world heavyweight champion who lost his titles in a boring decision.

Beating a former unified world heavyweight champion who recently lost his titles by decision will always be perceived as a better win than beating a random contender who just got knocked out cold last year by an over the hill guy.

Can you just quit with the “ancient Povetkin BS”. He’d schooled Hughie Fury and drew against Michael Hunter in his fights just before, showing he was anything but ancient or shot, and he was a former world champ in his own right with amateur pedigree as an Olympic gold medalist and world class power.

Ruiz was a world champion by fluke punch who immediately lost his titles by near shutout decision and has also lost to a guy that Whyte beat in Joe Parker. As of today, Whyte is also ranked above Ruiz by literally every organisation (Ring, TBRB, Boxrec etc.), so it’s entirely reasonable for anyone to consider Whyte a better win. I’d take the opinion of leading boxing organisations over that of some nameless poster with a questionable agenda whose views hold no value amongst mainstream boxing opinion.

Calling the Whyte a “random” contender, as if he’s unknown, shows you obviously know nothing.

[WBC WBA IBF]

People posting that Fury made $6 million on the third Wilder fight, no way lol.

Fury's filed purse was $6 million. His real purse was $30 million.

Whyte's filed purse was $400 thousand. 15x less than Fury's filed purse. Which is why the WBC set the split at 80/20 in Fury's favor.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Can you just quit with the “ancient Povetkin BS”. He’d schooled Hughie Fury and drew against Michael Hunter in his fights just before, showing he was anything but ancient or shot, and he was a former world champ in his own right with amateur pedigree as an Olympic gold medalist and world class power.

Povetkin only ever held a secondary world title. He was never the top champion of any of the four orgs.

Povetkin's best days were a decade ago. Dude, Whyte got knocked out cold LAST YEAR by an old Povetkin. There's no way beating Whyte would be considered a better win than beating Ruiz.

[The Ninth Layer]

Fury's filed purse was $6 million. His real purse was $30 million.

Whyte's filed purse was $400 thousand. 15x less than Fury's filed purse. Which is why the WBC set the split at 80/20 in Fury's favor.

I really don't know how anyone who is a big enough fan of boxing to actually post on a boxing website forum could actually believe Fury as the A-side in a heavyweight championship PPV event walked away with only $6 million lol.

While I'm here, some more insane posts I saw were the guys saying they don't trust the wikipedia as a source for the 600k number because anyone can edit it. I don't think I've seen someone say that since 2006. And the wikipedia number is even sourced!

https://www.mmamania.com/2021/10/14/22726841/fury-vs-wilder-3-ppv-buys-domestic-haul-falls-well-below-expectations-boxing

[WBC WBA IBF]

I really don't know how anyone who is a big enough fan of boxing to actually post on a boxing website forum could actually believe Fury as the A-side in a heavyweight championship PPV event walked away with only $6 million lol.

Like I said, his real purse was $30 million, but he filed his purse at $6 million to save money on taxes and sanctioning fees.

[Blackstarr]

Povetkin only ever held a secondary world title. He was never the top champion of any of the four orgs.

Povetkin's best days were a decade ago. Dude, Whyte got knocked out cold LAST YEAR by an old Povetkin. There's no way beating Whyte would be considered a better win than beating Ruiz.

An old Povetkin with world class power and the skills he possesses was still a top-5 HW and a formidable test against anybody. Wilder has only faced two ring rated fighters at most - got knocked out twice by one, and was out on his feet against an ancient version of the other, needing extra time from the ref, and was losing every round in the rematch until an even more ancient Ortiz slowed and Wilder got the KO. So quit holding Whyte’s KO loss against him - he took the Povetkin challenge when he didn’t need to and should be commended.

If all the boxing publications are telling me Whyte is better ranked than Ruiz, including the so-called bible of boxing The Ring, then that’s what I’m going with. As I’ve said, your opinion is virtually meaningless, more so because you clearly seem to represent shady/non-transparent boxing interests, and I’ll take the opinion of the educated boxing mainstream above yours any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[WBC WBA IBF]

An old Povetkin with world class power and the skills he possesses was still a top-5 HW and a formidable test against anybody.

Nobody credible had him in the top 5 at the time.

If all the boxing publications are telling me Whyte is better ranked than Ruiz, including the so-called bible of boxing The Ring, then that’s what I’m going with.

Ring Magazine is meaningless. It's owned by one of DAZN's promoters and Ring's ratings board publicly confirmed the ratings were corrupt.

[Blackstarr]

Nobody credible had him in the top 5 at the time.

Ring Magazine is meaningless. It's owned by one of DAZN's promoters and Ring's ratings board publicly confirmed the ratings were corrupt.

Ring magazine is more meaningless than your opinion is it? Your sense of self-importance while posting anonymously is laughable.

And what about all the other leading publications/organisations that rank Whyte higher, are they all meaningless compared to your highly esteemed opinion too?