Canelo`s career over 168 is smoke and mirrors

[MulaKO]

And Beterbiev smiles
How many years has Canelo been flirting with the idea of a nice Saturday night date ?
Floyd has taught him well , inside the ring and out
Oh yeah Kovi was a real threat at + money
Canelo fans keep telling yourselves that Yarde was a great threat only to be knocked the **** out by a jab


Lmfao

[JakeTheBoxer]

Briedis is the only left good champ at cruiserweight.

Okolie is solid.

Usyk beat everybody that was there to get beaten and than Usyk, Hunter and Gassiev left the division.

And now Canelo wants to pick a paper title in dead division, lol.

[abracada]

What do we have, Chavez jr. , old shot Kovalev, desperate for the money, taking the fight on short notice. And maybe paper cruiserweight champ next.

It is what it is, speaking of divisions over super middleweight, Canelo is unimportant fighter.

If he wants to change that, he must fight legit guys at 175 or a legit cruiserweight champ.

Kovalev wasn’t a shot fighter before the fight, but was branded shot after it.

[Oracle01]

Kovalev wasn’t a shot fighter before the fight, but was branded shot after it.

Did you watch the fight? If you couldnt tell that was a shot Kovalev you shouldn't talk boxing again.

[-Kev-]

Beterbiev is a bad man. So is Bivol. I think any non-biased fan looking at it totally neutral would say that anyone is a fool to compare BJS, Plant, Smith to those 2.

You have doubters each fight. You may not win most of them over, but you win SOME over which is all that matters. I see tons of guys on here say they thought Canelo would lose to GGG but they were proven wrong and now are big Canelo fans. GGG was always a bit overrated to me, but Artuer Beterbev is not. I never understood why GGG was on the p4p list but Beterbiev isn't.

There is 0 evidence that Canelo will win over any of his critics, ever. Which ever critic was talking about Canelo will duck Lara and GGG, are the same one’s today saying he is ducking Benavidez and Beterbiev. They have zero intentions of giving Canelo any credit for facing and/or beating those two.

Canelo has been in 6 fights vs 5 fighters his critics said he would duck.

To understand the Canelo critics, we need to think like them:

His critics aren’t going to become honest human beings out of the blue, because Canelo fights the great Benavidez with his resume full of ATG’s and his KO’s over the best 168 fighters of the last decade. Of course, that’s an exaggeration.

Canelo critics will not have a change of heart for Canelo if he ends up fighting and beating the 36 year old KO artist, Beterbiev, citing his age and inactivity, we well as “taking too long to stop Browne”.

Canelo will also certainly not get his critics to like him with a win over the light punching Bivol.

Even if he fights Beterbiev, Bivol, and Benavidez in 2022-2023, there will be issues. If he fights Benavidez in 2022, and not Beterbiev, he cherrypicked Benavidez because he knows he’s “green” and if he waits any longer he would have had to fight a “prime” Benavidez.

If he fights Beterbiev in 2022, but not Benavidez, he cherrypiecked Beterbiev because he showed signs of slowing down vs Browne and so Canelo is capitalizing on Beterbiev looking like he’s done before someone else does.

And well, if Canelo fights Bivol in 2022, but waits until 2023 to fight Beterbiev and Benavidez, again, Beterbiev would be too old and Benavidez would be past prime and no longer his dangerous 2021 self.

Canelo critics have it all covered. Canelo can fight and beat Super Saiyan Goku level 1 and they will just say Canelo needs to beat Super Saiyan Goku level 2 or the win doesn’t count.

[TonyGe]

Before I can discuss this, please do your due diligence before posting. Canelo vs Chavez Jr was at a catchweight of 164lbs. That’s Super Middleweight, not LHW.

Leading up to the fight, Kovalev was good enough to 1. Take his belt back from Eleider Alvarez in a rematch where he won almost every round. 2. KO Anthony Yarde. & 3. Become the #2 LHW by The Ring.

Kovalev was not only seen as a legitimate threat by Canelo critics. But he was seen as such a big threat by fans like you, that you predicted Canelo would drain him and not fighting him at the full 175lb limit.

Of course after the fight, Kovalev became shot.

Lastly, Canelo Alvarez LHW career has not taken off yet, as he only has 1 fight there. And his 1 fight at 175 was a better win than his rivals have on their record.

Chavez struggled to make 168 and that 164 catch weight was a weight restriction on his performance. Kovalev had a rehydration clause in his contract. At age 36 it had to have an effect on him.

[-Kev-]

Chavez struggled to make 168 and that 164 catch weight was a weight restriction on his performance. Kovalev had a rehydration clause in his contract. At age 36 it had to have an effect on him.

Canelo’s highest weigh in before fighting Chavez Jr was 155lbs. Canelo went up about as many pounds as Amir Khan went up to face Canelo.

Chavez Jr found out the hard way that 168-175 fighters were too much for him. He made his way down from the 170ish lbs to the mid 160s, culminating with the 164lb catchweight vs Canelo. Let’s not pretend like Chavez Jr wanted no part of 168-175.

I don’t remember you having any issues with Pacquiao vs Cotto at 145lbs and Pacquiao vs Margarito at 150lbs. Why take issue with Canelo’s
rehydration clause?

[Fangedgrowl]

Question is how well Alvarez would do now vs a Lara style fighter

manny fooled countless people into thinking he was a totally different fighter with matchmaking

then got a boxing lesson by Marquez in the trilogy

You are a hater! learn some boxing before you talk on here.

[SplitSecond]

Question is how well Alvarez would do now vs a Lara style fighter

manny fooled countless people into thinking he was a totally different fighter with matchmaking

then got a boxing lesson by Marquez in the trilogy

Funny enough only the Floyd tards thought He’d have an easy time with Marquez. Floyd tards had bad predictions in general, even involving their own fighter.

[Shadoww702]

1) Yes he was technically ranked 1 by the ring, but the true fight for 175 supremacy took place around the same time and that was Beterbiev vs. Gvozdyk. No true non casual fan in their right mind thought that Kovalev was as dangerous as those 2 or Bivol. His #1 ranking came from what he historically did had nothing to do with the fact that he was now chinny got KOd by Alvarez, almost KOd by Yarde. Anyone being honest wth themselves knows the real power rankings at 175 were Beterbiev, Bivol, Gvozdyk all ahead of Kovalev. Canelo knew this too, he wasn't ******. Andre Ward more or less vanquished the Krusher during their first fight and broke his soul in the second fight. The Sergey Kovalev we all know was gone.

2) Canelo was a -420 favorite to beat Kovalev, that's not much of a legitimate threat. Compare that to GGG where Canelo was +125 in the second fight.

3) Nobody who is being honest with themselves was saying that the Kovalev who fought well in the second Alvarez fight, but tentative behind a jab, or the Kovalev who fought well against Yarde, but almost got KOd and once again showed a very poor ability to deal wth adversity in round 8, wasn't shot.

4) He COULD beat Beterbiev and Bivol but we need to see it to believe it.

Umm Bivol almost got KO'd by Smith... So is he chinny? Isn't Biterbiev older now then when Canelo fought Kov?

So if Canelo wins you gonna say he was OLD! Look bad his last fight.