Was Canelo really a "kid" when he faced Floyd?

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #41
    What beat Canelo is the style match up. Trying to out box or out counter punch the master boxer was not going to work. Canelo has greatly improve and now actually pressures more as he did with Smith and Plant.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #42
      Originally posted by Oracle01
      Canelo was a very experienced boxer, lets stop playing these silly games about him being 'too young' when at that point he had more fights than most pros do in their entire careers and almost as many as Floyd himself. Show me a fighter in history that drastically improves after 42 pro fights?

      The idea that Canelo is a totally different fighter now is a myth. I think he might be slightly better but basically the same fighter, the only difference is he has not fought anyone even close to Floyd again. Against a nobody like plant, he struggled and often was hitting complete air, so just imagine if he fought Floyd again? Would be the same result.

      The excuse he was 'drained' is comical also when he weighed in only 1.5lbs heavier vs Trout 5 months earlier. lol the pathetic excuses.
      How was he very experienced when he’d only fought one world champion? No previous world lvl amateur experience? He didn’t have much experience at the top lvl at all. He had plenty of experience fighting old men, midgets and bums.

      Imagine having only fought 1 reigning champion in your career (a fight he admitted to being drained for btw and thus laying on the ropes for long stretches, nvm 152) and going straight to a bronze olympic medalist, 4 weight class veteran that has beaten god knows how many champions. Their experience was worlds apart.

      And he’s a completely different fighter now, undoubtedly.
      Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-23-2021, 09:10 AM.

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      • 4truth
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        #43
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

        He created his own weight class of 155, you would want to recheck that.
        He was in the ring in the mid 170s. Making 154 was already a struggle and 152 was simply too much. He could not go to 160 because Golovkin. In the ring at 165 was a full weight class below what he was facing other opponents at in those days. Mayweather fans can and will believe, or try to believe, whatever makes them happy. They always do

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        • SplitSecond
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          #44
          Originally posted by Lomadeaux
          You really think in Canelo’s team’s objective to preserve his professional record that this experience is equal to the risks an amateur fighter takes? Canelo’s resume is littered with slow, small, lethargic dead men made to order. Mayweather had gone through the trials of facing other sharp, fast, hungry etc fighters.

          maybe if Canelo was fighting a bum like Genaro Hernandez(like he was for the bum Trout). Sure, enough experience for that. Not a top 2 p4p fighter.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-23-2021, 09:29 AM.

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          • FeFist
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            #45
            He was a young lion who had the opportunity to propel himself to stardom by beating an old lion. It is an opportunity many have grabbed in the past, but he failed so had to do things the hard way.

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            • Hatesrats
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              #46
              Originally posted by SplitSecond

              You really think in Canelo’s team’s objective to preserve his professional record that this experience is equal to the risks an amateur fighter takes? Canelo’s resume is littered with slow, small, lethargic dead men made to order. Mayweather had gone through the trials of facing other sharp, fast, hungry etc fighters.

              maybe if Canelo was fighting a bum like Genaro Hernandez(like he was for the bum Trout). Sure, enough experience for that. Not a top 2 p4p fighter.
              My Dude "Chicanito" was prob riddled with CANCER at the time.

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              • Boxfan83
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                #47
                Yes he was a man and yes he had a large amount of boxing experience but I personally dont think boxers should turn pro until they are 22-23yrs old.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by 4truth

                  He was in the ring in the mid 170s. Making 154 was already a struggle and 152 was simply too much. He could not go to 160 because Golovkin. In the ring at 165 was a full weight class below what he was facing other opponents at in those days. Mayweather fans can and will believe, or try to believe, whatever makes them happy. They always do
                  It’s not Floyd fans beliefs that’s the issue. It’s posters like you that make up stuff like “making 154 was already a struggle” that they accept as truth solely to discredit, even though that statement is blatantly false.



                  In The article above :

                  Making 152 pounds was “easy. I reached weight yesterday, and reached it today,” Alvarez said in Spanish to an interpreter.

                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-23-2021, 11:17 AM.

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                  • ippo
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                    #49
                    He was a 22 year kid who was really inexperienced. He wasn't like he who is today. Still a good win for Mayweather, but its not the be all end all like a lot of people think it is.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ippo
                      He was a 22 year kid who was really inexperienced. He wasn't like he who is today. Still a good win for Mayweather, but its not the be all end all like a lot of people think it is.
                      “really inexperienced “? He had 43 professional fights, including 6 title defenses, when he fought Floyd.

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