De La Hoya: "Mayweather Has To Win By Knockout"

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  • The Great Shark
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    #121
    It's all hype people, you guys shouldn't take him so seriously.

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    • Al Haymon
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      #122
      Originally posted by Tom Flores
      When Floyd was at 130 and 135 up until 2003,

      Marquez was 126 up until two years ago.




      Tomas,


      Mayweather and Marquez fought four pounds apart for about six years (1996-2002). May at 130, and Marq at 126. During that time, Marquez actually tested the lightweight limit BEFORE Floyd did. Does that surprise you?

      So, yes. They could have fought. At 128. Or at 130.


      * I say 128 bc FMJ called out Hamed and angreed to meet him at 128, but Naz wanted none.

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      • -EX-
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        #123
        A dominant performance is good enough...

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        • Al Haymon
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          #124
          Originally posted by Tom Flores

          But its funny how they don't discount those divisions when it comes to counting weight classes in which a championship was won.

          There is no cachet in moving up in weight, avoid the best fighters at that weight, and then make fighters from lower weight divisions come up.

          You're going to have to bring some more heat than that.

          If he was as obsessed with legacy as you claim,

          he'd be fighting the best fighters at welterweight.
          Tom,

          With all due respect, I can't keep saying the same things and providing evidence of that. You are going to have to listen...or i'll just move along.

          Mayweather WANTED to fight Shane. Several times. Including when Shane was prime. Articles were written about that. Did you want Mayweather to drive to Pomona and steal on Shane on his front lawn?

          Question: who did Floyd "make" come up in weight? Name one.
          JMM: "QUiero pelear con Mayweather a cientos cuarenta libras o un poco mas' Lo oi', mijo.

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          • handler000
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            #125
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Mayweather's best weight was at 130. At 140 he clearly dodged Tszyu who owned that division.
            Yeah he dodged Tszyu because he had a contract with SHOWTIME and Mayweather had a contract with HBO. Some people will post anything!!

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            • handler000
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              #126
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Mayweather weight in at 150 for Oscar and I doubt he lossed a pound overnight instead of gaining weight. So saying the most PBF has come in to a fight is 149 is not true. Floyd walks around at 153-156 while JMM walks around 145-148. And, here is a question like you said if PBF walks around at 150 couldn't he still make 140? Or, why not have the catch-weight at 142? It shouldn't be that much trouble if walking around 150.
              Everybody who's been on here for a while (even the haters) know Floyd weighed 150 at the official weigh in and was 148 on fight night. It's not news.

              When you are the perceived draw in a fight you get all or most of the concessions; hence that is the reason FMJ can have the fight at 144. Put yourself in his position. Why fight @ 140 when you know you will have more of an advantage at 144? I went through all of your post and you never mentioned once about PAC getting all the advantages over Cotto (including weight). Please come with something better than PAC has fought @ WW before because in reality him and Roach knew DLH couldn't make 147 and be effective. But yet you knock Floyd for doing what's best for him.
              Last edited by handler000; 09-13-2009, 09:29 AM.

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              • Al Haymon
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                #127
                Originally posted by handler000
                Yeah he dodged Tszyu because he had a contract with SHOWTIME and Mayweather had a contract with HBO. Some people will post anything!!
                Handler,

                You will save yourself countless minutes and grief if you just omit Kostya Tszyu from any discussions with Wiley.

                He is obsessed with Zoo. He feels that Zoo was better than Chavez and is on a shortlist of ATG's.

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                • Mr. Philadel
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by GTR
                  Mayweather KOing Marquez??? ****** please... that aint happenin.
                  I got 5k on a Floyd KO or stoppage.....not a win......but a stoppage win by Floyd!!....5k for you or ANYBODY game

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                  • rocco1252
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                    #129
                    Mayweather is a *****, all he can do is call up lighter fighters to fight. I loved the interview with Brian Kenny on ESPN when Kenny said well your fighting a lighter man who has never been up in weight, doesnt it make a difference and Mayweather kept dogding the question saying no it doesnt make a difference I'm the best in the world! Well Floyd why not move down in weight rather than have a guy 14lbs lighter than you move up?

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #130
                      So let me get this straight. Oscar picked Marquez to win, but says it's an embarrassment if Mayweather DOESN'T win by KNOCKOUT?

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