So Canelo beats Beterbiev pretty easy right guys?

[VG_Addict]

I don't think there's any question Canelo is more skilled overall. It's just Beterbiev's size and strength that makes people doubt Canelo can win.

If they were the same size, Canelo would win handily.

[dan_cov]

Even Gvodyk, unproven.
Damn right Stevenson was a good, very dangerous LHW but the guy was 41 which absurd practically unheard of for a LHW.

If Browne knew what an uppercut was that may well have been a different fight. He spent 90% of the fight getting caught on the ropes and just letting Beterbiev plod straight in without making him pay without setting up traps and only looked too counter sparingly. He can't fight at mid-range or even inside for that matter and his even from the outside he has a rather pathetic punch selection.

I think Canelo beats Beterbiev comfortably and will shock a lot of people how he does it going straight too him like he did in the GGG rematch. He'd put straight on his heels and we'll see he's even more limited than even I suspected. He can't fight going backwards.
I think stylistically he is made to order Canelo isn't going to just let him plough forward nonstop creating a snowball effect. He can fight at every range, he's fast, savvy, slick and hits a lot harder than the guys Beterbiev has fought.

I think Canelo beats him surprisingly easy and then the excuses begin he waiting for Beterbiev too get old etc
People won't have it he beat him in better fashion than others they hold in a higher regard

[TernceBudCharlo]

Even Gvodyk, unproven.
Damn right Stevenson was a good, very dangerous LHW but the guy was 41 which absurd practically unheard of for a LHW.

If Browne knew what an uppercut was that may well have been a different fight. He spent 90% of the fight getting caught on the ropes and just letting Beterbiev plod straight in without making him pay without setting up traps and only looked too counter sparingly. He can't fight at mid-range or even inside for that matter and his even from the outside he has a rather pathetic punch selection.

I think Canelo beats Beterbiev comfortably and will shock a lot of people how he does it going straight too him like he did in the GGG rematch. He'd put straight on his heels and we'll see he's even more limited than even I suspected. He can't fight going backwards.
I think stylistically he is made to order Canelo isn't going to just let him plough forward nonstop creating a snowball effect. He can fight at every range, he's fast, savvy, slick and hits a lot harder than the guys Beterbiev has fought.

I think Canelo beats him surprisingly easy and then the excuses begin he waiting for Beterbiev too get old etc
People won't have it he beat him in better fashion than others they hold in a higher regard

The GGG fight was 7-5, 7-5, and 6-6 on the official scorecards. GGG was 1 close round from retaining his belts, it wasn't the ass whooping all these casuals say it was. GGG was catching him coming in with hard jabs all night and round 9 and on finally started finding a home for his uppercut when canelo gassed and GGG started moving forward more. Beterbiev does all these things better.

He's gonna fight that same way against the much bigger, stronger, equally skilled Beterbiev and win 12-0 now when he couldn't even get more than 7 against GGG? That's a big big stretch man..

[dan_cov]

The GGG fight was 7-5, 7-5, and 6-6 on the official scorecards. GGG was 1 close round from retaining his belts, it wasn't the ass whooping all these casuals say it was.

He's gonna fight that same way against the much bigger, stronger, equally skilled Beterbiev and win 12-0 now when he couldn't even get more than 7 against GGG? That's a big big stretch man..

GGG is a lot more skilled and fundamentally sound than Beterbiev at least imo he is.
I 100% believe GGG is a tougher fight for Canelo. He does a lot of things better than Beterbiev.

I think this is the problem or how people are coming to this conclusion is they look at Beterbiev like he is similar or a bigger and possibly better version of GGG when he is far more limited, slower, easy too hit and predictable.

GGG is a better boxer than Beterbiev regardless of amateur credentials.

It doesn't matter what goes with GGG he will always be a problem with that jab and its consistency. Once anything goes from Beterbievs game he's a sitting duck.

[TernceBudCharlo]

GGG is a lot more skilled and fundamentally sound than Beterbiev at least imo he is.
I 100% believe GGG is a tougher fight for Canelo. He does a lot of things better than Beterbiev.

I think this is the problem or how people are coming to this conclusion is they look at Beterbiev like he is similar or a bigger and possibly better version of GGG when he is far more limited, slower, easy too hit and predictable.

GGG is a better boxer than Beterbiev regardless of amateur credentials.

It doesn't matter what goes with GGG he will always be a problem with that jab and its consistency. Once anything goes from Beterbievs game he's a sitting duck.

Whatever man free to disagree, happy to bet on the fight when it happens lol

[Tails]

The problem some people fail to come to terms with is that yes, Canelo is more skilled in the traditional sense compared to Beterbiev.

But when you fight someone with Beterbiev's style (similar to Benavidez) it is a matter of keeping them off of you without tiring yourself out. You can be winning rounds but if you are putting yourself in a position to where you start gassing yourself out then you are playing into their hands. This typically means you have to hurt them enough to the point that you break down them down instead of them breaking you down.

Beterbiev is getting older, that is a fact, but he still has enough in him to be a fighter that people would still be hesitant to go against. Because if you lose to Beterbiev it 99% means you got the **** kicked out of you pretty bad at some point in the fight (typically towards the latter half).

[dan_cov]

People will laugh when I say this but I'd liken him more to an Angulo than I would GGG, I am dead serious I don't care if people save this for years too come.
I genuinely would.

[TernceBudCharlo]

People will laugh when I say this but I'd liken him more to an Angulo than I would GGG, I am dead serious I don't care if people save this for years too come.
I genuinely would.

I think this is totally crazy but whatever. He's been in there with all the best guys at amateurs, destroyed Kovalev twice, win over usyk, a green usyk but still, world championship in the amateurs, and he would have a gold medal too if usyk wasn't there.

Angulo wasn't a bad amateur but fought nowhere near the level of opposition as Beterbiev.

[ShoulderRoll]

This is a good take



This is a good one too, he can beat him I'm just not putting my money on it. Beterbiev is a massive massive step up from anyone Canelo has ever faced and anyone who says he's not DKSAB. You have to be foolish or think canelo is foolish not to see it, and it's a real insult to canelo and Mexican boxing to think him and his team aren't smart enough to know this.

Canelo doesn't need Beterbiev to keep his p4p ranking, he can fight Andrade, Charlo and Benavidez which are much more winnable fights.

dan_cov sees what I see. Beterbiev can't fight going backwards and is a plodder. Canelo would actually have the faster and better feet in a fight for once.

With Canelo's versatility, defense, and iron chin he has a damn good chance of beating him on points. With an outside shot of possibly getting a stoppage, depending on how Beterbiev takes the punching power of the smaller man.

[AKAcronym]

Canelo has a great chin against guys his size who aren't the biggest punchers (aside from GGG, who still buzzed Canelo a few times). No idea how his chin would take Beterbiev's power. Always easy for people to say from the outside what someone can do to beat someone, but you're not the one in there taking the punches. And that kind of power will make you change your game plan, especially someone smaller. And Artur could easily open that scar tissue on Canelo's left eye.