So Canelo beats Beterbiev pretty easy right guys?

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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    #91
    Marcuse Browne is a much better resume win Than, plant, bjs, smith and that's fact. He has a dominating win over Badou jack, who accomplished more than those 3 at 168, he got robbed in his unification fight wth degale, great wins over prime drile, groves, bute, and maybe even beat Stevenson. His wis wn over Gvozdyk also far more impressive than anything those guys ever done.

    You guys really think canelo is ******, you fanboy his boxing but insult his intelligence like mad.

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      #92
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      I actually think he would do exactly that.

      Beterbiev sucks and I don't care how many fantasists claim he's Wolverine himself, he is garbage in a dead division.
      Go back too hyping up GGG guys at least that guy can actually box.
      His resume blows away anything GGG has ever done

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        #93
        Maybe not easily but Canelo can beat him.

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        • KillaMane26
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          #94
          Canelo can beat him tho.... The problem is what he risking to do it! Canelo win or lose will take the most damage he has ever took.

          Canelo should quit moving up to belt collect and stay out the cross hairs of these big dudes his team has no intentions of matching him up with. Imo. .

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            #95
            Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

            His resume blows away anything GGG has ever done

            What resume really? Gvodyk looked a good prospect (shouldn't call him that as he was a belt holder) who looked timid and wasn't sitting down on his punches after putting Stevenson in a coma and some really, really average and basic fighter that a 40yr old shot Pascal beat the hell out of. The only time Pascal has won when he has stepped up is vs Browne aged 38 or something. That is or should be very telling.
            I have no idea why Browne is held in such high regard on here he's the definition of mediocre and has no heart at all. We seen his lack of heart vs a shot Pascal, we seen it again last night. He's a frontrunner.

            LHW to me is a division with zero depth. You have Bivol, Beterbiev then the gap below is just huge.

            GGGs resume isn't great but not only is he at least tested at elite level he has better wins in Jacobs who is twice the fighter Browne is and for me GGG is a lot more skilled, less vulnerable and more consistent than Beterbiev who is painfully limited. Effective for sure but about as limited as you can get.

            LHW is a whack division you have Bivol, Beterbiev and there is a huge gap I don't subscribe to Browne, Pascal, Jesse Hart, Joe Smith being any good, all gatekeeper types at best just there is no depth. There is nobody there at #3 through #10 so somebody has to be ranked there.

            Ramirez, Smith may well fill the void but they're seriously unproven at this stage who knows how good either of them are at the weight. We assume they're top 5 but they have to prove it beating Lenin Castillo and a few shot Cuban fighters who were in truth barely fringe contenders even in their primes 5-6 yrs back doesn't tell me anything.

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            • VG_Addict
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              #96
              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

              It's not just speed, it's timing, footwork, little things, which he all does very well. Can't tell if you're trolling or not now, it's not just the power, Beterbiev is a very skilled fighter who holds amateur wins over a lot of the top guys, he's not a bum in the skill department like Kirkland. Closer to GGG except much bigger, stronger, harder hitting.

              You're acting like Canelo doesn't have great timing and footwork, which he does.

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                #97
                LOL @ thinking Beterbiev has better footwork than Canelo. Some of you need to pick another sport to watch.

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                • TernceBudCharlo
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict


                  You're acting like Canelo doesn't have great timing and footwork, which he does.
                  I never said he didn't. The B- level fighters he's cherried at 168 don't.

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                  • TernceBudCharlo
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by dan_cov


                    What resume really? Gvodyk looked a good prospect (shouldn't call him that as he was a belt holder) who looked timid and wasn't sitting down on his punches after putting Stevenson in a coma and some really, really average and basic fighter that a 40yr old shot Pascal beat the hell out of. The only time Pascal has won when he has stepped up is vs Browne aged 38 or something. That is or should be very telling.
                    I have no idea why Browne is held in such high regard on here he's the definition of mediocre and has no heart at all. We seen his lack of heart vs a shot Pascal, we seen it again last night. He's a frontrunner.

                    LHW to me is a division with zero depth. You have Bivol, Beterbiev then the gap below is just huge.

                    GGGs resume isn't great but not only is he at least tested at elite level he has better wins in Jacobs who is twice the fighter Browne is and for me GGG is a lot more skilled, less vulnerable and more consistent than Beterbiev who is painfully limited. Effective for sure but about as limited as you can get.

                    LHW is a whack division you have Bivol, Beterbiev and there is a huge gap I don't subscribe to Browne, Pascal, Jesse Hart, Joe Smith being any good, all gatekeeper types at best just there is no depth. There is nobody there at #3 through #10 so somebody has to be ranked there.

                    Ramirez, Smith may well fill the void but they're seriously unproven at this stage who knows how good either of them are at the weight. We assume they're top 5 but they have to prove it beating Lenin Castillo and a few shot Cuban fighters who were in truth barely fringe contenders even in their primes 5-6 yrs back doesn't tell me anything.
                    Gvozdyk wasn't a belt holder, he was the lineal champ. He put Adonis Stevenson in a coma ffs, that's real power.

                    Pascal never beat Stevenson...

                    What does Pascal have to do wth Gvodzyk? He's an excellent fighter who has always stepped it up against the best and given great fighters tough bouts.

                    I consider a dominating win over Sir Marcus much better than a controversial win over Jacobs. Both were solid American Ameteurs around the same level who never really got that signature win at the pro level. But Marcus' win over Jack was probably better than anything Jacobs has ever done. And he was boxing the **** out of Pascal before he got caught.

                    GGG doesn't have a single win on the level of those 2 that was without controversy.
                    Last edited by TernceBudCharlo; 12-18-2021, 11:52 AM.

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                    • TernceBudCharlo
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by KillaMane26
                      Canelo can beat him tho.... The problem is what he risking to do it! Canelo win or lose will take the most damage he has ever took.

                      Canelo should quit moving up to belt collect and stay out the cross hairs of these big dudes his team has no intentions of matching him up with. Imo. .
                      This is a good take

                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Maybe not easily but Canelo can beat him.
                      This is a good one too, he can beat him I'm just not putting my money on it. Beterbiev is a massive massive step up from anyone Canelo has ever faced and anyone who says he's not DKSAB. You have to be foolish or think canelo is foolish not to see it, and it's a real insult to canelo and Mexican boxing to think him and his team aren't smart enough to know this.

                      Canelo doesn't need Beterbiev to keep his p4p ranking, he can fight Andrade, Charlo and Benavidez which are much more winnable fights.
                      Last edited by TernceBudCharlo; 12-18-2021, 11:55 AM.

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