Comments Thread For: Haney On WBC Lightweight Title Confusion: They Can Say What They Want To Say, It's Still Disputed

[GLeon12]

Teo beat Lomachenko for the belts, Kambosos beat Teo for the belts.


Haney beat.........NOBODY. Quit muddying the waters when it's extremely clear who the champion is. Haney is a great fighter, but until he beats the CHAMPION, he is a champion.

[1hourRun]

Do you think Timmy will take an undercard spot on Kambosos next fight? If it's in Australia?

Tim Tszyu is a proven Box-Office Superstar, I don't know if George Kambosos can sell-out arenas in Australia or has any PPV numbers. Its a considerable financial risk for No-Limit promotions and the networks to put George Kambosos as the headliner, I think that Tim's figures suggest that it makes more sense that the 'Soul-Taker' be the main-event ( even vs. Michael Zerafa or Anthony Mundine), and George be in the co-feature vs. Devin Haney.

[Rodtang]

What, its a long journey to your computer and opening up your email?

That's how, Lomachenko was given the Franchise title. That's how Jermall Charlo got his WBC world title. And so yes it was how Haney found out Loma was ducking him with a **** move.

[Rodtang]

I mean just because the WBC caused confusion with all the franchise non-sense, does not mean Haney is the champion. Did he beat Loma, no, Loma was the WBC champ, Lopez beat him, that means he's the champion, and Kombosos beat Lopez, and so on. Before the franchise crap, that would be the pecking order to be champ, why should it change because the WBC is shady.....

Loma ducked him by circumventing Haney and was accordingly stripped. So Loma may have been the man, but not the WBC world champion at that time.

[Rodtang]

So Josh Taylor obviously isn't undisputed as he hasn't got a franchise title then, if we apply the same logic. I'm sorry but Josh Taylor is every bit as much undisputed as Kombosos and Lopez before him aren't. Respect to Jose Ramirez for stepping up and fighting Josh Taylor with his WBC world title, rather than pulling a Loma **** move to become franchise to avoid him. Respect Jose for manning up and keeping it real.

[Rodtang]

So if we follow the logic of Sulieman. Thats the guy who thinks he's the authority over world boxing, when he's not, he's only the authority over WBC matters. If we follow his logic, that means a fighter can win the WBC franchise title, WBA regular title, IBF interim title, and the WBO global title and become undisputed. So we could have four undisputed champions in any division at any one time.

[Rodtang]

The Franchise world championship is higher than the regular world championship in the WBC's ratings, just as the Super world championship is higher than the regular world championship in the WBA's ratings.

Who is the Franchise champion at 147?

[Rodtang]

Kambosos beat the man who beat the man. Haney didn't. I agree the super titles and franchise titles are a joke and have made the sport a mess. Hopefully both will be phased out soon. But until then, Kambosos is undisputed champion of the world, recognized by all four organizations as the ultimate champion.

Haney became mandatory to the man, and the man ducked him and became an e-mail franchise champ whilst vacating the proper world title. So any claim on undisputed has to win Haneys belt.

[Rodtang]

Teo beat Lomachenko for the belts, Kambosos beat Teo for the belts.


Haney beat.........NOBODY. Quit muddying the waters when it's extremely clear who the champion is. Haney is a great fighter, but until he beats the CHAMPION, he is a champion.

If you circumvent a hard earned mandatory and become an e-mail franchise champ, and vacate your world title in the process you may still be the lineal man, but any claim on undisputed needs Haneys world title.

[IronDanHamza]

“How can it undisputed if it’s disputed” has to be the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen. Started by Ben Davison I think.

Its the equivalent to saying Josh Taylor isn’t undisputed because Barrios was the regular WBA champion at the time.

Nothing will change Haney’s belt being fake and illegitimate. Not until he actually wins a belt in the ring.