Comments Thread For: Conspiracy Theories, Offensive Scoring: Another Weekend in New York City

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Love the fight preview labeling Davis/Cruz blatant cherry-pick ppv mismatch as the “TRASH” fight of the week! Lol!! Exactly what it is ….Couldn’t agree more.

[nino brown21]

Hats off to both of them it was a great fight and George took some right bombs from teo but kept going .

[ruedboy]

There's been lots of times when a fighter dominating a round gets knocked down and the round is scored as a 10-8 round. It also happens that another time it's ruled as a 10-9 round. Judges never have to justify how they score rounds and that's probably why we see a lot of questionable decisions.

[PBR Streetgang]

My question is this: Would Lopez had been afforded a 10-8 score if the roles were reversed in the first round? I'd be very interested to see how many times those judges had scored a round 10-9 in fights where there was a KD. I'd also be interested to see how many times the "A-side" was given the 10-9.

We all think about instances of blatant robberies when we speak of poor judging. More often than those obvious examples, many boxers fall victim to the subtle bias of the judges...when the benefit of the doubt always seems to favor the "house" fighter.

[PBR Streetgang]

Interesting to see Fitz pick Diaz in 9. I like it.

[sportbuddha]

Based on this writers theory that Teo won the first round for all but 10 or 20 seconds....Teo would have won that round 10-9. If that is the case...deducting the point for the knock down...he would surely score the round 9-9. Kambo didn't get an extra point for the round...he was given 10's because it was believed that he won the round. That means Teo was on 9....minus a point for the knock down for a 10-8 round. It's not that complicated.

That’s a very confusing way to explain something you say isn’t complicated, there is no 9-9 at any point in a 10 point must, that’s confusing, usually if a KD is scored it results in a 10-8 unless it was completely against the flow, but it’s not common to get a KD and a 10-9.

[sportbuddha]

I scored it like Lyle, but here's how I scored the rounds.

Here's how I had it.

Round 1 : 10-8 Kambosos (KD)
Round 2: 19-18 Kambosos Lead (Lopez Round)
Round 3: 28-28 Tied (Lopez Round)
Round 4: 38-37 Kambosos
Round 5: 48-46 Kambosos
Round 6: 58-55 Kambosos
Round 7: 68-64 Kambosos
Round 8: 78-74 10/10 Round
Round 9: 87-84 Lopez Round
Round 10: 95-94 Lopez Round (KD)
Round 11: 105-103 Kambosos
Round 12: 114-113 Lopez Round

Winner: Kambosos

I reckon K got 12 as well

[Rockybigblower]

That’s a very confusing way to explain something you say isn’t complicated, there is no 9-9 at any point in a 10 point must, that’s confusing, usually if a KD is scored it results in a 10-8 unless it was completely against the flow, but it’s not common to get a KD and a 10-9.

I will post this again for those who weren't listening....


HOW IS THE FIGHT SCORED?


The modern boxing scoring system is known as the '10-Point Must System'. Here is a basic overview of how it works:

• Judges score each round individually, on a 10-point scale. Most rounds are scored 10-9, with the boxer who did better scoring 10 and 'winning' the round, with the other fighter scoring 9.
• If a boxer is knocked down or hurt enough to prompt a standing count from the referee, that fighter loses a point. So, if a boxer dominates a round, controlling and landing better punches throughout and also knocks their opponent down, the end result is a 10-8 round. If a boxer dominates the round but gets caught out and put on the canvas for a knockdown, it's a 9-9 round.
• If both fighters score a knockdown in the same round, the deductions 'cancel each other out (so it would probably still be a 10-9 round in favour of the better boxer)
• A judge is able to award a 10-8 round without a knockdown, if the fighter scoring 10 dominated the round by a huge margin (this is usually only used if a round is total one-way traffic, or perhaps if a fighter was saved from a knockdown because the round expired).
• Judges are also able to award a 10-10 round, if the round in their eyes was completely even and there was nothing between the fighters.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I reckon K got 12 as well

A very swingy scrap

[Toffee]

If Lopez was dominating then fair enough, I could live with the 10-9.

But he wasn't, he was winning the round based purely on aggression. Then Kambosos swung the round with a beautiful shot to down him and then a big follow up shot on the button just before the bell.

On balance, Kambosos won the round. So it should be 10-8 given the knockdown.

Boxing is a sport that does seem to accept that things aren't Black and White. It leaves a lot to subjective judgement. I can accept that.

But in the circumstances of that first round I don't think I've ever seen a 10-9. Is it not strange that two of the judges saw it that way? Not one, but two. That points to something, whatever that may be.