Comments Thread For: Conspiracy Theories, Offensive Scoring: Another Weekend in New York City

[Mooshashi]

The 12th round in Fury-Wilder I could be an example of a 10-9 round when there has been a knockdown. After getting upright, Fury dominated the rest of the round and hurt Wilder.

Round 1 in the fight in question IMO should be 10-8 simply because Lopez was not dominating the round. In fact he was throwing Wilder like windmill punches with his chin up in the air, which why he got knocked down in the first place.

[danthepup]

You got it right Lyle, we all know that boxing and politics are both completely honest and above board, and the right guy always wins. Stick to boxing, you seem to know at least a tiny bit about that. Our sport has enough corruption in it already without you bringing politics into the mix.

[andocom]

Forget the knockdown for a second, at the end of the first round as they walked back to the corners who got the better of the round, for me it was Kambosos and not really that close. Teo came out wild, swinging for the fences and was definitely ahead, got caught clean and damaged, that turned the round to 10-9 Kambosos.

It also happens to be the case that Teo hit the canvas which makes it 10-8 Kambosos.

Justifying it by pointing out rules allow for 10-9 with KD also doesn't address the fact 99% of the time that isn't how a KD round is scored especially considering Kambosos was never hurt with a differential of only 8 punches. So if you want to argue 10-9 was correct here you better be complaining about the dozens if not hundreds of 10-8s in similar circumstances.

[theface07]

Fitzbitz shows his political leaning I think.

Well, I believe the 2020 US election was stolen, too much evidence that's obvious, but I digress. How did he pick Diaz over Haney?

Haney wins no problem; he is one of the best, although people will hold that one time he got hurt against Linares against him.

What are you talking about? He never once mentioned the election. You're the one making this political and since you have, it's clear that you subscribe to unfounded conspiracy theories and blatant lies from the far right. What "evidence" is there that the election was stolen? It was the most secure and scrutinized election in US history. There were multiple investigations into voter fraud and corruption by YOUR party and they found nothing.

Get over it and stop trying to turn the narrative in your head into a reality because you're a sore loser.

[theface07]

Teo was robbed.. no debate..

even the first round should have been scored 10-9

Teo thoroughly dominated that round & was not hurt on the knock down

Bahahaha. Yeah he was robbed, in his own city, by US judges, in front of his own fans, when he was a massive favorite and unified champion.
Go back to bed bro, you're dreaming.

[sportbuddha]

I will post this again for those who weren't listening....


HOW IS THE FIGHT SCORED?


The modern boxing scoring system is known as the '10-Point Must System'. Here is a basic overview of how it works:

• Judges score each round individually, on a 10-point scale. Most rounds are scored 10-9, with the boxer who did better scoring 10 and 'winning' the round, with the other fighter scoring 9.
• If a boxer is knocked down or hurt enough to prompt a standing count from the referee, that fighter loses a point. So, if a boxer dominates a round, controlling and landing better punches throughout and also knocks their opponent down, the end result is a 10-8 round. If a boxer dominates the round but gets caught out and put on the canvas for a knockdown, it's a 9-9 round.
• If both fighters score a knockdown in the same round, the deductions 'cancel each other out (so it would probably still be a 10-9 round in favour of the better boxer)
• A judge is able to award a 10-8 round without a knockdown, if the fighter scoring 10 dominated the round by a huge margin (this is usually only used if a round is total one-way traffic, or perhaps if a fighter was saved from a knockdown because the round expired).
• Judges are also able to award a 10-10 round, if the round in their eyes was completely even and there was nothing between the fighters.

That wasn’t even close to what happened, in fact I can’t even think of a championship fight scored 9-9 in any round. Lopez didn’t have a single round where he dominated to the extent him getting knocked down could be considered completely against the flow of the fight and simply ‘flash’. The judge has to consider if someone is really standing out not just on work rate but actually landing the punches and he wasn’t, a lot of loading and throwing but not much landing so it was very even up until the knock down and typically if the fighter touches the canvas instead of being paused for a standing count, that’s considered 10-8. The rule book is what it is but much like the law, judges think based on precedent and to not call that a 10-8 would undermine 100s of other rounds scored historically.

[Ajvar]

I read all and agree for 10-8 round here.

WHY? Because the KD is when boxer TOUCHES floor with body. But the SUPAH-PUNCH is before point-deducting KD and it's valued into whose round was it.

It's like loosing fighter A hit competitor so hard that another guy would be wobbled for 8 seconds in semi-concious state while fighter A showboated that time. Would that change the round into his favor? In most scenarios unless fighter A was punched like a toy from ropes to ropes all round then yes, it CHANGES round.

Kambosos has not been dominated by Lopez and he made 2 flush hits at the end, one of which was SUPAH-PUNCH. Not a flash KD but a classic prepared power punch on to the chin button to put @ss onto the canvas KD. 10-8 round.