Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Frustrated He Hasn't Had Same Fate As Canelo Alvarez

[A_State501]

Plenty of Arum’s big fighters have had big fights. Fury v Wilder 2 and 3 were cross promotion fights. He’s done many more too.

So I don’t think we can automatically blame Arum when he’s proven he can and will make big fights for other fighters, regardless of promoters and networks.

i do think a big part of it is simply the PBC 147 guys could make good money fighting each other, so they just didn’t really need or want to fight Crawford. Plus the likes of Haymon are making more money with two in house fighters and passing belts around. Crawford isn’t big draw so they never needed him, too much of a risk.

The only time PBC fighters generally fight in a big fight against someone outside of the stable is when the money is far greater than it would be having two in house fighters, like Wilder v Fury.

I don’t think Arum or Crawford have been the problem. Just PBC can make more money for Spence v Garcia because they take a cut from both and Crawford doesn’t bring significantly more money.

Although to be fair, all promoters take this approach with in house fights. Arum used to arguably be the worst but PBC are now.

Bob had absolutely nothing to do with Wilder vs Fury they were going to fight again after the draw.

It's crazy how people leave Bob and say it's the best decision they ever made you rarely hear that with PBC fighters.

I guess it's Al Haymons fault that Bud didn't get the Pac fight?

People love to place blame everywhere except for where it belongs. Bob has done a number on Bud's career and Bud resigned to him that's where the blame is not Al or PBC.

[A_State501]

Canelo is #1 P4P...PERIOD! In fact Canelo has separated himself from the pack by Unifying so NO Crawford beating Porter don't move him back to #1. Unifying 147 can get him #1 though for sure and it is going to be hard to do that if you're running around saying "Spence Fight Is Never Happening I'm Done..."

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Boxing Fans and even some Boxers themselves have this sense of entitlement. Your Opinions are not Facts, they're merely your opinion and I think people really need to understand that.

The Cold Hard Truth...Canelo knows his worth, You DON'T or at least you Didn't when you re-signs with Top Rank when he could've became a Free Agent years ago. Arum don't give a damn about your opportunities or Legacy his job is the make fights that makes him $$$ and even he has said Crawford don't make him $$$ and went as far to say that he loses money on Bud and said that it is hard to get him on ESPN because ESPN is not interested in him.

Separated himself by running from 160 to unify a ****ty 168 division.

Who was BJS best win at 168? That'll tell you all you need to know about the champions there

[The Old LefHook]

Canelo fights everyone, and Crawford fights no one. Look no further for why he will be historically forgotten pronto. Hell, he is almost forgotten now, and he isn't even done yet. No one has faith he is finally really going after it. He is old. He wants chips, not legacy. Do yourselves a favor and forget Crawford.

[IAMTHAT]

You're not totally wrong, but there's deft difference in treatment.

Back when GGG made his debut on HBO, the media was going crazy for him; and rightfully so. Eventhough the competition wasn't the best, he was annihilating everyone and it was fun to see. Everyone loved him so much that he shot up the top 10 P4P list, again, without really facing anyone of note. On the other hand, you have Tank Davis now doing very similar. Not fighting the best possible opposition, but annihilating everyone in front of him. He's actually doing it in multiple weight class, something GGG never did. Now, do you see Davis on anyone's P4P list? Very rarely, and if you do, he's at the 10 spot. Why is it that GGG can land unanimously top 4-5 but Tank can't?

That's just one example, but there's plenty more. Again, there's so truth in what you said as well, but we can't ignore black fighters get treated differently.

Don't compare Tank to GGG ... Tank needs to be told you're losing to start fighting. Tank has been avoiding so many boxers, including Loma for three years. GGG was avoided.

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Separated himself by running from 160 to unify a ****ty 168 division.

Who was BJS best win at 168? That'll tell you all you need to know about the champions there

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No worse than WTF Bud fought at 140 to unify. Don't want to disrespect Bud to give Canelo his Credit because I like Bud but come on!

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I feel Crawford's 147 resume is lame. And it's several years old.

I also don't think it's about ethnicity. Are you saying that Ali, Frazier, Foreman, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, Whitaker, RJJ, etc, were not acknowledged as stars in the US? Fans in any market appreciate fighters who give something to the sport. i.e compelling fights. At welter, Crawford has done road apples. He needs to look in the mirror and get real. His sense of entitlement is a detriment to his legacy. Stop fighting subpar opponents for millions and then complain about not being a superstar!

I do agree that UK fans get behind their fighters more. But again, it's not about skin tone. PUt in the work and the fans will embrace you.

You make some valid points but it is about ethnicity to an extent because certain ethnicities have a leg up because they come from passionate boxing countries. Americans have to take a different route because they don’t have a built in fan base. American promoters will jump faster to sign a Mexican or Puerto Rican than they would to sign a Black American or even a Cuban based on the ethnic fan base.

Crawford’s resume is lame at 147 and it’s because all of the top welterweights are with pbc and Haymon had the ability to freeze him out while still putting his guys in big fights and Crawford doesn’t bring in the kind of money that makes the risk worth the reward for someone like Haymon. That’s partially Crawford’s fault for resigning with Arum but also Arums fault for failing his fighter. With many of the fighters you mentioned, they didn’t have the same issues because many were Olympians who had the backing of major networks( like when HBO was in business). Those two factors definitely helped their exposure and played a role in getting fights made. I will mention though that Whitaker had to fight hard to get fights made and it wasn’t until he was almost 30 that he was able to get a Chavez in the ring despite trying for years to get someone like him or Camacho to face him and after that took another 4 yrs to get a big name in the ring which was Oscar. Same deal with Hagler. He became very frustrated about his inability to land a big fight and it wasn’t until later in his career that he was able to consistently fight any of the other “3 kings”.

[greeneye99]

Ugly, Arrogant, ****** and no personality for starters....

All these faults Crawford has....
But
You still took the time to read a Crawford article and leave a comment
#trolling

[The D3vil]

Yeah, Bud's always reminded me of Marvin Hagler in this since.

It's like what Frazier told Hagler back in the day. "You have three strikes against you, You’re black, you’re a southpaw, and you’re good"

Bud, the same way is too good, too black, and a switch hitter who fights southpaw often. Plus, he's a vicious finisher.

Luckily for Hagler back in the day, there were still enough real men in the sport where even avoided fighters like him had to eventually get their shot.

Now, guys like GGG, Bud, Andrade, etc. . .often have to wait until their mid 30s when they start declining before fighters find the nerve to fight them.

Canelo, like Floyd & De La Hoya before them got lucky to become cash cows earlier in their careers, so guys couldn't avoid them and didn't want to avoid them & miss those giant paydays.

That's why I've always judged those type of fighters more harshly, because they can actually fight who they want, when they want, where they want. If they don't fight somebody, it's because they don't want the fight.

But if you're a black fighter who's not willing to play the urban/street villain like Floyd or Tank, or your Eastern European, or if you're Cuban, then you've got your work cut out for you.

[chepboxingking]

Don't compare Tank to GGG ... Tank needs to be told you're losing to start fighting. Tank has been avoiding so many boxers, including Loma for three years. GGG was avoided.

I think you have that backwards. I'm sorry for comparing GGG to the PPV star Tank Davis. I remember that Ward PUBLICLY stated his team sent out an offer was to GGG for supremacy at 168. GGG declined. This was after GGG said "anyone from 154 to 168 can get it". Tank is literally fighting across 3 different divisions and is annihilating tham all the same.

This proves my point exactl. Foriegn fighters always get more backing in general than the black American fighter. I could argue Jarmall Charlo has had a better career than GGG (undefeated, 2 div champ) yet GGG is held at a much higher pedestal.

[Greenfield02]

Alvarez hasn’t done anything other than box and have the right color skin and nationality to promote himself. Terence Crawford has at least as much charisma as him and he speaks english. Not to say that Canelo hasn’t earned his spot. But so has Crawford. And even as a black fighter, Anthony Joshua hasn’t had to compromise his character to promote himself. The UK has embraced him as is with no additives or artificial flavors. Why can’t black American fighters be embraced the same way?

You're kidding right? Ever heard of Mayweather, Tyson, Jones, Leonard, and the multitude of black American fighters that have been embraced by American boxing fans? Crawford's fans want to claim that he's not popular because he's black, but the truth is people don't embrace Crawford because he's made a career of fighting paper champion's, not taking any risks, pricing himself out because he thinks he's worth more than he is, and then crying about it. That's why....