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  • Boxing-1013
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    #21
    Originally posted by kushking

    What you feel is meaningless,the judges Canelo has had were better than most fighters because hes fought in vegas,who has provably the best judges on earth
    I completely agree with you on the bold, bud

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      #22
      A new American star will be born for you to be bitter about.

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      • kushking
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013

        He certainly doesn't have a bad resume, but the only face value win that comes to mind for me is BJS. And probably Jacobs. I felt he won that clean, 7-5, and I felt he dominated BJS.

        But every other win or 'win' has some smoke and mirrors to it.
        I got news for you bub boxing is not about what goalpost movers think it is. Its not about having to win by lopsided decision or ko for the win to matter. Its about fighting the best fighters available consistently & getting your hand raised the most times v the best to become an atg or even goat,& its about constantly challenging yourself by jumping weightclasses to fight every star/elite possible.

        You're the type to complain after Hagler v Leonard that Leonard isn't great because the fight was close & 1 judge had him ahead by same margin as Byrd did Canelo. Or that Hagler koing Hearns was against a shtty opponent.

        Most fights are very close competitive fights when the best continually keep fighting the best(in every era),boxing is a sport won by inches,its only in the modern era that fans like you have everything twisted because you refuse to admit greatness when you see it(in thinking only lopsided wins matter).
        Last edited by kushking; 11-04-2021, 08:04 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by kushking

          I got news for you bub boxing is not about what goalpost movers think it is. Its not about having to win by lopsided decision or ko for the win to matter. Its about fighting the best fighters available consistently & getting your hand raised the most times v the best to become an atg or even goat,& its about constantly challenging yourself by jumping weightclasses to fight every star/elite possible.

          You're the type to complain after Hagler v Leonard that Leonard isn't great because the fight was close & 1 judge had him ahead by same margin as Byrd did Canelo. Or that Hagler koing Hearns was against a shtty opponent.

          Most fights are very close competitive fights when the best continually keep fighting the best(in every era),boxing is a sport won by inches,its only in the modern era that fans like you have everything twisted because you refuse to admit greatness when you see it(in thinking only lopsided wins matter).
          SRL moving up 2 divisons and outclassing (an old) Hagler was extremely impressive. Hagler taking Hearns best shots and KOing him was extremely impressive.

          Canelo doesn't have a real win as good as either of those. If he was treated fairly he would have at least a few more losses at this point, and definitely some more losses and draws.

          He's a great fighter, probably juiced to the gills, who has the judges in his back pocket as well. It doesn't take much for him to get official wins man.

          I don't rely on other people to tell me what I see, or how a fight went. Canelo benefits greatly from his status. We all know this.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013

            SRL moving up 2 divisons and outclassing (an old) Hagler was extremely impressive. Hagler taking Hearns best shots and KOing him was extremely impressive.

            Canelo doesn't have a real win as good as either of those. If he was treated fairly he would have at least a few more losses at this point, and definitely some more losses and draws.

            He's a great fighter, probably juiced to the gills, who has the judges in his back pocket as well. It doesn't take much for him to get official wins man.

            I don't rely on other people to tell me what I see, or how a fight went. Canelo benefits greatly from his status. We all know this.
            Yaaawn only you would sum up what happened between Hagler & Leonard so lamely.(Hagler v Leonard was more competitive as Canelo v ggg 2(neither fight ggg looked impressive & Canelo did in route to a draw then a resounding victory that was so epic ggg was never the same & restarted as a fighter completely different from before.(Canelo took his "soul"
            Last edited by kushking; 11-04-2021, 08:26 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013

              The only face value wins in that group are BJS and Jacobs. Everything else has a medium to large size asterisk next to it.
              what has saunders ever done at 168? he almost lost to some random guy there before fighting canelo. he had no business fighting in that division and was fat. canelo saw an easy mark and took it down, oh you are hyping this guy up still? ok ill fight him at 168 where he sucks balls!

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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum

                what has saunders ever done at 168? he almost lost to some random guy there before fighting canelo. he had no business fighting in that division and was fat. canelo saw an easy mark and took it down, oh you are hyping this guy up still? ok ill fight him at 168 where he sucks balls!
                Who is he supposed to be fighting?(you never can answer that)

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                  He certainly doesn't have a bad resume, but the only face value win that comes to mind for me is BJS. And probably Jacobs. I felt he won that clean, 7-5, and I felt he dominated BJS.

                  But every other win or 'win' has some smoke and mirrors to it.
                  Nah he also beat Cotto clearly, Kovalev by KO and he also beat Lara and Trout. There were bad cards in both those fights but the right man got the decision. Callum Smith was also a good win.

                  I’m a big Golovkin fan, so naturally Canelo isn’t a guy I support but you have to give the guy his credit, he clearly has the best resume of any active fighter and it’s not even close.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kushking

                    Yaaawn only you would sum up what happened between Hagler & Leonard so lamely.(Hagler v Leonard was more competitive as Canelo v ggg 2(neither fight ggg looked impressive & Canelo did in route to a draw then a resounding victory that was so epic ggg was never the same & restarted as a fighter completely different from before.(Canelo took his "soul"
                    You're not a very good analyst. That's about as nice as I can be.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      Nah he also beat Cotto clearly, Kovalev by KO and he also beat Lara and Trout. There were bad cards in both those fights but the right man got the decision. Callum Smith was also a good win.

                      I’m a big Golovkin fan, so naturally Canelo isn’t a guy I support but you have to give the guy his credit, he clearly has the best resume of any active fighter and it’s not even close.
                      Cotto was at the end of his career, and not at his best weight.

                      Kovalev was pretty faded and with pretty underwhelming performances post Ward 1. I still give Canelo some credit for going up to 175 and getting the KO, but it was not a face value win.

                      Lara win was fine imo. I had Lara up the whole way and I felt Canelo closed better and took the last few rounds to win. In truth I never watched/scored the whole Trout fight.

                      Smith had just lost to Ryder, in basically the same fashion as Canelo beat Smith.


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