What Style Is Kryptonite For Pressure Fighters

[GrandpaBernard]

let me take that back i dont know what i was thinking when i saw JLC for some reason my brain thought Juan Marquez sorry

Yeah the deck was stacked against Marquez that night

Floyd did everything better but combinations and uppercuts

[M312]

Counter punchers with power
Make them fear coming forward and they run outta ideas

[Boxing-1013]

GGG is almost always a pressure fighter, but he really is just a guy who boxes behind the jab. Once he finds the range, which he always seem to do, he starts to walk you down. The way to beat him is to slip the jab and match his workrate - the Derevychenko apporach.

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I think you just have to look at what SRL did to Hagler for the answer(s) on how to deal with pressure fighters in general.

First, you can try and box and move around the ring. Leonard did that for the first half of the fight.

The second half, he went to war with Hagler and tried to match his output. A much more dangerous approach, but trying to dance around the ring for 12 rounds and avoid someone's shots are hard to do as well, especially someone like Hagler.

Some combo of those two approaches is probably your best bet. If a pressure fighter is just trying to walk you down without throwing until he gets in range, then using the most important punch in boxing - the jab - becomes super necessary. It allows you to touch him up, and should hopefully back him up some, and should set you up for throwing some right hands.

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Pressure fighters in general are not one size fits all though.

[PBR Streetgang]

Big punchers. That's why Golovkin was so successful for so long, only Canelo had the power to even phase him.

That's my opinion as well. I don't really consider GGG to be the classic pressure fighter. A guy like Joe Frazier was a pressure fighter IMO. Hurd, at his peak, was a pressure fighter. Pressure fighters typically come forward and press with their forward movement and volume punching. There are pressure fighters that aren't volume punchers that exert pressure through precise, well placed, hard shots (something I've seen Canelo do quite a bit).

Power punchers can throw heavy leather as the pressure fighter comes forward, compounding the impact of shots. Foreman lit up Frazier. As much as I liked Hurd, Charlo probably would have lit him up had they fought.

Slick movers can give pressure fighters issues if they can keep the pressure fighter from cutting off the ring and can keep their movement up over the duration of the fight.

[SilverMiles]

That's my opinion as well. I don't really consider GGG to be the classic pressure fighter. A guy like Joe Frazier was a pressure fighter IMO. Hurd, at his peak, was a pressure fighter. Pressure fighters typically come forward and press with their forward movement and volume punching. There are pressure fighters that aren't volume punchers that exert pressure through precise, well placed, hard shots (something I've seen Canelo do quite a bit).

Power punchers can throw heavy leather as the pressure fighter comes forward, compounding the impact of shots. Foreman lit up Frazier. As much as I liked Hurd, Charlo probably would have lit him up had they fought.

Slick movers can give pressure fighters issues if they can keep the pressure fighter from cutting off the ring and can keep their movement up over the duration of the fight.

I would consider Golovkin a Puncher-Boxer. He throws a lot of jabs so his punch stats appear high.

I agree with your statement and believe boxing is much too complicated to just say this style beats another. We've seen pressure fighters get completely outboxed by the boxer but we've also seen pressure fighters breakdown slick boxers.

[GrandpaBernard]

GGG is almost always a pressure fighter, but he really is just a guy who boxes behind the jab. Once he finds the range, which he always seem to do, he starts to walk you down. The way to beat him is to slip the jab and match his workrate - the Derevychenko apporach.

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I think you just have to look at what SRL did to Hagler for the answer(s) on how to deal with pressure fighters in general.

First, you can try and box and move around the ring. Leonard did that for the first half of the fight.

The second half, he went to war with Hagler and tried to match his output. A much more dangerous approach, but trying to dance around the ring for 12 rounds and avoid someone's shots are hard to do as well, especially someone like Hagler.

Some combo of those two approaches is probably your best bet. If a pressure fighter is just trying to walk you down without throwing until he gets in range, then using the most important punch in boxing - the jab - becomes super necessary. It allows you to touch him up, and should hopefully back him up some, and should set you up for throwing some right hands.

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Pressure fighters in general are not one size fits all though.

Yeah the best guys are hard to beat because they have attributes from other styles too

[KillaMane26]

Yes but none of them came remotely close to winning

ignore that comment

Castillo arguably beat Floyd......

[Roadblock]

On the flip side pressure guys can also bring it to Floyd

Maidana
Cotto
JLC

And look at the rematches, if Floyd decided to fight the first fights on his bike at range they don't touch him, there were fights where Floyd decided to fight them in the trenches that was his decision, not theirs.

[Zaroku]

Not relevant to size, but guys like Mayweather, Whitaker, Pep who use angles, footwork and don’t allow you cut off the ring effectively. Pressure fighters usually struggle with movers.

Rocky Balboa, Aurturo Gatti, etc.

[creekrat77]

For Golovkins style specifically, a nimble fast guy who can shoot the gap and smother the work Golovkin is trying to get started. A good example of this was Marciano vs Joe Louis. Marciano's size made him a more effective non stop aggressor where Louis had to revert to keeping him away. Canelo did this to an extent against Golovkin.