What Style Is Kryptonite For Pressure Fighters

[billeau2]

Short angles and punches at weird angles

describes manny being a stylistic nightmare for pressure guys prior to becoming shot

by the way what did you mean months back when you mentioned manny has a “kickboxing” style

Yeah Manny for all his many abilities and talents basically comes off what I call "the line." Ill give you the whole unadulterated version... Older South east asian fighting arts are based on the blade. With a blade you never enter directly, so these arts... arts like Silat, Kali, etc enter at angles using the triangle as the shape in which to shape space... So in short, because there are blades and no one wants to be sliced, when you enter an opponent, your coming in at a 45 degree angle usually...

So... Older arts in Thailand and Burma developed kick boxing from these older arts. The idea was to strip fighting down to its essential elements... Hitting each other... Burmese Arts are even more direct than Thai kickboxing this way! To make this happen they took all the footwork, the subltlety, the other aspects out... Thai boxers really don't use footwork. Watch them... they basically both come in off a straight line. If they are fast they get there first lol. Manny grew up in this fighting culture being from the Philipines. If you watch older tapes of him, he fights like a kick boxer... direct fast off one line. Pacquio developed incredible speed doing this: Basically he would move the upper body from the hips and blow in straight ahead...

Now Manny refined many things, but if you look at his basic movements he basically is really fast off "the line." The line is essentially the line directly in front of you, it is the fastest way to your opponent. So while many fighters will feint, or pick a line different from the most direct line, the central line is always the closest way to get to your opponent and... it is really the only line used in Thai Boxing.

[GrandpaBernard]

Yeah Manny for all his many abilities and talents basically comes off what I call "the line." Ill give you the whole unadulterated version... Older South east asian fighting arts are based on the blade. With a blade you never enter directly, so these arts... arts like Silat, Kali, etc enter at angles using the triangle as the shape in which to shape space... So in short, because there are blades and no one wants to be sliced, when you enter an opponent, your coming in at a 45 degree angle usually...

So... Older arts in Thailand and Burma developed kick boxing from these older arts. The idea was to strip fighting down to its essential elements... Hitting each other... Burmese Arts are even more direct than Thai kickboxing this way! To make this happen they took all the footwork, the subltlety, the other aspects out... Thai boxers really don't use footwork. Watch them... they basically both come in off a straight line. If they are fast they get there first lol. Manny grew up in this fighting culture being from the Philipines. If you watch older tapes of him, he fights like a kick boxer... direct fast off one line. Pacquio developed incredible speed doing this: Basically he would move the upper body from the hips and blow in straight ahead...

Now Manny refined many things, but if you look at his basic movements he basically is really fast off "the line." The line is essentially the line directly in front of you, it is the fastest way to your opponent. So while many fighters will feint, or pick a line different from the most direct line, the central line is always the closest way to get to your opponent and... it is really the only line used in Thai Boxing.

Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts.

Marquez made the line work against manny when his right collided right in manny face

[sicko]

A Slickster who can punch

[BodyBagz]

Countering and circling. Head movement and timing.

[GrandpaBernard]

A Slickster who can punch

Jamez Toney?

[billeau2]

Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts.

Marquez made the line work against manny when his right collided right in manny face

Marquez is excellent. He always is exploiting angles and setting traps for Manny... Of the coterie of Morales, Barrera, and Marquez, Mexican boxing royalty, Marquez is far and wide my favorite. He is an accountant from Mexico City and he fights that way!

Thank you for the compliment. You always come up with great threads, asking great open ended questions.

[icha]

a counter puncher, see whitaker vs chavez sr ...

[mick1303]

In reality pure styles rarely exist. Actual live fighters are usually some combinations of pure styles. Those pure styles how I see it are A - slick boxer, B - pressure fighter, C - KO artist.

The interaction between pure styles follows rock-paper-scissors pattern: pressure fighter beats slick boxer, KO artist beats pressure fighter, slick boxer outpoints Ko artist.

[The plunger man]

Counter punchers , fighters with quick feet and angles......most times the boxer will win the boxing match against pressure fighters......Triple ggg was not just a pressure fighter.
He is accurate , monstrous jab and able to cut the ring off and was a devastating body body puncher so who ever faced him circa 2012 was in for a long night.
when you have an elite boxer in there against an elite pressure fighter the boxer will be the slight favourite to win......but it’s not guaranteed.
But we examples of this with Leonard vs hagler , Whitaker vs Chavez , mayweather vs pacquaio , Ali vs Liston etc

[Johnny2x2x]

Good counter punchers and sneaky good inside fighters. You get a guy that can make them pay on the way in and then hold their own inside.