At what point will Floyd Mayweather get the credit he deserves?

[BodyBagz]

If Pac had an 0, 0 my gawd..........

[hugh grant]

If Pac had an 0, 0 my gawd..........

You cant have a zero fighting for 27 years in others backyards and being 8 division champ.

[BodyBagz]

You cant have a zero fighting for 27 years in others backyards and being 8 division champ.

The game is the same no matter where it's played, bro.

''8 div'' champ

Pac's 0 would be the only legit 0, yes ????

[Roadblock]

So, it's a mysterious mixture of winning AND LOSING that makes a guy an ATG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep then it quickly jumps to a popularity contest, crazy when you think about it.

The only real truth by the very idealism of being the best ever can only mean the very best is better than everyone else,, and so by definition be undefeated because nobody could beat the one, that's why that one was the best ever, the moment we go off with a yeah but he did this or that ( opinion) then the entire system breaks down into meaningless limbo where one is only arguing an inbuilt human need to be right, its not about the fighter lol its goes way deeper into the human psyche.

Its so fkn crazy when you really look at the whole forum process, it's about us as individuals, not the fighters we praise or defend or hate on, it's not about them at all its defending ourselves, everything is coming from within the man in the mirror, human behavior is very much driven by animalist traits and tendencies, and when they feel threatened as is being confronted by a difference of opinion, a threat to one's beliefs, certain things get triggered in the brains fight or flight, add in the ego and you got a cesspool. some guys its rolls of their back, the other is knocking on your door with a ******* lol, all on the name of who is right, and of course, both are lol.

You can actually get a good picture of who you are talking to just by what they are saying, is it a campfire story or fact-driven, is it truth or lies, is a small lie because of a mistake or misunderstanding, or a blatant lie in order to defend one's opinion, its takes a certain kinda person to write some things you see in a forum, some would never stoop so low because the man in the mirror knows he is lying which keeps them real, only because of the anonymous freedom do they do it, some people in here could not possibly be so fake in real life face to face, it takes a special kind to lie to themselves whether anonymous or standing on a podium, at the end of the road you're on your own and living true to self is important when your time comes around living the fake will be the biggest mistake one can make.

Anyway, Im thinking too much lol I was born thinking why is it so, in old age more now than ever, life is short boys you have no idea how fast it will go until you get there and realize it was a blur., there ain't no going back.

[BodyBagz]

Yep then it quickly jumps to a popularity contest, crazy when you think about it.

The only real truth by the very idealism of being the best ever can only mean the very best is better than everyone else,, and so by definition be undefeated because nobody could beat the one, that's why that one was the best ever, the moment we go off with a yeah but he did this or that ( opinion) then the entire system breaks down into meaningless limbo where one is only arguing an inbuilt human need to be right, its not about the fighter lol its goes way deeper into the human psyche.

Its so fkn crazy when you really look at the whole forum process, it's about us as individuals, not the fighters we praise or defend or hate on, it's not about them at all its defending ourselves, everything is coming from within the man in the mirror, human behavior is very much driven by animalist traits and tendencies, and when they feel threatened as is being confronted by a difference of opinion, a threat to one's beliefs, certain things get triggered in the brains fight or flight, add in the ego and you got a cesspool. some guys its rolls of their back, the other is knocking on your door with a ******* lol, all on the name of who is right, and of course, both are lol.

You can actually get a good picture of who you are talking to just by what they are saying, is it a campfire story or fact-driven, is it truth or lies, is a small lie because of a mistake or misunderstanding, or a blatant lie in order to defend one's opinion, its takes a certain kinda person to write some things you see in a forum, some would never stoop so low because the man in the mirror knows he is lying which keeps them real, only because of the anonymous freedom do they do it, some people in here could not possibly be so fake in real life face to face, it takes a special kind to lie to themselves whether anonymous or standing on a podium, at the end of the road you're on your own and living true to self is important when your time comes around living the fake will be the biggest mistake one can make.

Anyway, Im thinking too much lol I was born thinking why is it so, in old age more now than ever, life is short boys you have no idea how fast it will go until you get there and realize it was a blur., there ain't no going back.

Thinking is not a bad thing unless someone is doing it for you (looking directly at the remaining Pac fans). Never have I met such a hypocritical fan base.

The ability to lose is the true sign of greatness

[tritium_arma]

In the truest terminology, the greatest ever would be undefeated, think about that.

So first the most important thing is what their common opponents think. Now that that's been shown to be split, it's back to my own opinion on terminology? Hahahahahaha. That's some hoe ****.

[hugh grant]

So, it's a mysterious mixture of winning AND LOSING that makes a guy an ATG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

True, history prove s that, shows that - I didn't just make that rule up.
You go undefeated then it attracts criticism, makes people su****ious, with a what's the catch attitude. Maybe it's unfair in many cases, maybe the criti sicm marciano and Floyd gets is unjust but it sways opinionS and mud sticks sometimes. You think fury doesn't attract critisicm, you don't think spence or bud get critiscm?

The catch with floyd is that people think if he fought outside his backyard he'd not only have some losses, but also the wins of floyd
outside his backyard in mexico, Philippines, England or Argentina would be deemed greater wins. So Floyd's wins are underwhelming run of the mill stuff bordering sven ottke territory.
You think being undefeated gives you meal ticket?

[GrandpaBernard]

So, it's a mysterious mixture of winning AND LOSING that makes a guy an ATG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who you beat takes precedence

I don’t understand fans crediting bad losses when discussing resumes

I can guarantee fighters aren’t reminiscing the loss they took as a shot old man when thinking about how great their career was

[BodyBagz]

Who you beat takes precedence

I don’t understand fans crediting bad losses when discussing resumes

I can guarantee fighters aren’t reminiscing the loss they took as a shot old man when thinking about how great their career was

Too right.

Who in the hell celebrates losing ???

Actually, I think Freitas celebrated after Chico made him quit

At the end of the day, losing is at least a step back, no matter how a person spins it.

[BodyBagz]

True, history prove s that, shows that - I didn't just make that rule up.
You go undefeated then it attracts criticism, makes people su****ious, with a what's the catch attitude. Maybe it's unfair in many cases, maybe the criti sicm marciano and Floyd gets is unjust but it sways opinionS and mud sticks sometimes. You think fury doesn't attract critisicm, you don't think spence or bud get critiscm?

The catch with floyd is that people think if he fought outside his backyard he'd not only have some losses, but also the wins of floyd
outside his backyard in mexico, Philippines, England or Argentina would be deemed greater wins. So Floyd's wins are underwhelming run of the mill stuff bordering sven ottke territory.
You think being undefeated gives you meal ticket?

How does where a person fight matter ?
What so called advantage is there for staying home ?

People travel around the world all the time. The reason May stayed home is because he was the King of Boxing and Kings call the shots.

I'm telling you to your mug, if Pac had an 0, you freaks would be completely unbearable. FACT ! I know this because you Pac fans celebrate his every win.