Comments Thread For: Dana White on Fury-Wilder 3: It Was An Incredible Fight, Boxing Needed That

[factsarenice]

While I think white is a scumbag he is right. There is a shortage of truly entertaining and memorable fights these days due to the different promotions and networks, fighters avoiding each other, fighters fighting not to lose rather than fighting to win etc etc.

That is the truth, I couldn't have said it better.

[Greenfield02]

Boxing needed that..... This term has been used multiple times throughout the history of boxing, and yet here we are. Dan can talk when the UFC is around for 150 years, until then..... What memorable fights does the UFC have? A couple here and there, it's mostly two dudes fondling each other on the floor until the bell rings, some of you might enjoy that.... But not everyone. Let me add this, back when boxing's big fights made it's transition into PPV, people would say boxing is dying because usually big fights would get 300k to 1 million buys and that's not alot, people would say. Nowadays those same people say UFC is king knowing they average 400k PPV buy's, and all their fights are exclusively on PPV, no tv outlets really show their fights and yet their king?.... To top it off, they don't charge the same as boxing for their fights on PPV or if you buy a seat and go watch it live, they don't bring in the same revenue as boxing does when they put on big fights, that's why PPV records are held by boxing, not UFC, that's why gate records are held by boxing, not UFC, and till this day, a boxing super fight, generates more money and interest than an UFC super fight.

[champion4ever]

Look at here! These accolades are just pouring in for what happened on Saturday night. Fury/Wilder III has made yet another new boxing fan.

[TMLT87]

Dan can talk when the UFC is around for 150 years

The UFC is a promotion, not a sport. And modern day boxing resembles 1800s boxing about as much as MMA resembles ancient Greek pankration.

What memorable fights does the UFC have? A couple here and there, it's mostly two dudes fondling each other on the floor until the bell rings,

So you're asking a question but then pre-emptively dismiss genuine answers with your own bias. The actual answer is - tons, the last one being like two weeks ago.

But not everyone. Let me add this, back when boxing's big fights made it's transition into PPV, people would say boxing is dying because usually big fights would get 300k to 1 million buys and that's not alot, people would say. Nowadays those same people say UFC is king knowing they average 400k PPV buy's,

In other words you're saying they are doing 90s boxing PPV numbers while going to PPV 12-13 times a year. Was that meant to be a criticism? `

B they don't charge the same as boxing for their fights on PPV or if you buy a seat and go watch it live

Their tickets are a lot cheaper true, their PPV is $70 compared to $75-80 for boxing, not a huge difference especially when you take into account how much more often they go to PPV.

The biggest PPV numbers and live attendances in boxing today come from AJ fights in the UK, where tickets are much cheaper and PPVs cost the equivalent of around $30.

till this day, a boxing super fight, generates more money and interest than an UFC super fight.

Only if your definition of a boxing super fight is that Floyd/Conor freakshow and Floyd/Pac. Because those are the only boxing matches that did bigger PPV numbers than the biggest UFC fights.

and all their fights are exclusively on PPV, no tv outlets really show their fights and yet their king?

I have no idea what made you think this. They have four free cards on ESPN this month plus PPV prelims.

[thack]

He's right....if you had a negative on this fight then you're on the wrong site!!

[ShoulderRoll]

This is why boxing will never die. At it's best it's too compelling.

[Get em up]

First of all Dana White is a buffoon.

With Tyson's UFC tactics last Saturday, the MMA fanbase felt right at home watching the Gypsy-Bum : headlock, clinch, grab and strike, forearm, hammer-fist, clawing, and choke Deontay Wilder.

I thought I was watching a replay of Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama in PRIDE 21. This was not boxing, I personally would not vote for Wilder-Fury III as the 2021 FOTY on the basis that it was more like a unsanctioned tough-man contest, the way Tyson broke all the rules. Okesandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua deserves that honor ; that was a honest contest in which both combatants abided by the Unified Rules of Boxing, with the sweet-science being performed at the highest level.

Tyson Fury's vicious assault and robbery of Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder, is not a proper representation of our sport, sadly sound reasoning is trumped by the emotional impact of this awful spectacle.

Good god dude saying crap like this is what makes boxing a niche sport. You cant give Wilder the credit he deserves by not picking Fury for doing what he had to in order to win. I'm a full fledge Wilder fan and picked him to win all 3 fights and think its ignorant for a boxing fan to complain about seeing a fight that kind of special.

[Ry92]

First of all Dana White is a buffoon.

With Tyson's UFC tactics last Saturday, the MMA fanbase felt right at home watching the Gypsy-Bum : headlock, clinch, grab and strike, forearm, hammer-fist, clawing, and choke Deontay Wilder.

I thought I was watching a replay of Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama in PRIDE 21. This was not boxing, I personally would not vote for Wilder-Fury III as the 2021 FOTY on the basis that it was more like a unsanctioned tough-man contest, the way Tyson broke all the rules. Okesandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua deserves that honor ; that was a honest contest in which both combatants abided by the Unified Rules of Boxing, with the sweet-science being performed at the highest level.

Tyson Fury's vicious assault and robbery of Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder, is not a proper representation of our sport, sadly sound reasoning is trumped by the emotional impact of this awful spectacle.

Either you lost money or your related to wilder. A good fights a good fight this was good fight. Hitting the arms part of game mayweather even said such clinching part of the game though muay thai better. Putting your extra 40-50 lbs on u no rule against it most ppl dont cause rarely outweight opps by 4-6 divisions . blame wilder shouldve mixed the jab up more as well had slightly higher output. Lastly idk who tells him keep working on upper body nah the base is the legs dude missed leg day for a decade

[iamboxing]

Dana's right. Boxing very much needed a fight like that. YEAH WE GET IT - ITS NOT FRAZIER ALI skill-wise, but it was still exciting ya miserable bastards.

[Greenfield02]

The UFC is a promotion, not a sport. And modern day boxing resembles 1800s boxing about as much as MMA resembles ancient Greek pankration.



So you're asking a question but then pre-emptively dismiss genuine answers with your own bias. The actual answer is - tons, the last one being like two weeks ago.



In other words you're saying they are doing 90s boxing PPV numbers while going to PPV 12-13 times a year. Was that meant to be a criticism? `



Their tickets are a lot cheaper true, their PPV is $70 compared to $75-80 for boxing, not a huge difference especially when you take into account how much more often they go to PPV.

The biggest PPV numbers and live attendances in boxing today come from AJ fights in the UK, where tickets are much cheaper and PPVs cost the equivalent of around $30.



Only if your definition of a boxing super fight is that Floyd/Conor freakshow and Floyd/Pac. Because those are the only boxing matches that did bigger PPV numbers than the biggest UFC fights.



I have no idea what made you think this. They have four free cards on ESPN this month plus PPV prelims.

Oh brother, if UFC is king, why do you spend all your time on boxing threads? MMA is a sport, boxing is a sport, UFC puts forth the sport of MMA, what a dumb comment.... No sh** UFC is not the a sport, their the entity behind the sport of MMA. And de la Hoya Mayweather, how many buys was that? Canelo Mayweather How many? Holyfield Tyson, how many, as a matter of fact how many boxing events have had more than 1 million buys compared to MMA? Boxing has hit that number more than MMA, boxing has hit 2 million plus more than MMA, MMA has like 1 fight in it's history that's done more than 2+ and probably like 10 to 12 fights that has hit 1 million+ , all the other's do 300k to 500k on average. Boxing super fights are not $75 or 80 try like $89 to 100 per buy, let's not even talk about all time gates because boxing really leaves MMA behind, besides ESPN, where else can you watch the UFC? Because I could tell you about 4 different outlets that I can watch boxing.... And lastly, go research on how the UFC count's it's buys, their count is a global count, meaning every buy around the world, and I could tell you they don't charge $70 in the U.K or France or anywhere else, and all they do is PPV, no network in other countries carry the fight for free, look it up it's global buy's when they account their numbers. Now, boxing PPV buy's are just U.S based, they actually have network's from other countries pay a fee to show their fights in their country, which is another source of revenue, so when you compare the 2.4 million buys that is UFC top buy rate for a PPV to de la Hoya, Mayweather 2.4 million buys, you are comparing apple's to oranges because all of the boxing's buy's are based in the U.S while UFC is the whole world where they are providing the PPV, not to mention the millions watching around the world, for free, boxing only comes second to soccer when you talk about global stars and reach, that's why the top earning athletes are boxers, their world renowned....