Why’s Wilder getting praised for the savage beating he took?

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  • SN!PER
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    #81
    Originally posted by Toffee

    They'd exactly what happened to Wilder. Was dead on his feet from the 3rd on. Landed a punch in the 4th but didn't have the energy to follow it up. Then got beaten to a pulp.

    Joshua made a fight of it up to about Round 10, when he simply had nothing left against a man who had put forward an exceptional performance.
    So basically you're saying that a dead man (Wilder) was able to knock down Fury TWO times even while he was dead on his feet because he was willing to take risks.

    And a fresh AJ failed to knock down a cruiserweight even though he had energy until round 10 because he was scared to get countered.

    Wow, how much does AJ suck if he's afraid of a cruiserweight.

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      #82
      Originally posted by revelated

      Adrenaline. It's a MF'er.

      Especially when you're like Wilder and you're not afraid to die in the ring, you just want the chance to go out on your shield and not have a towel thrown on you.

      I honestly think Brook would have done the same damn thing if his corner hadn't tossed a towel against Golovkin. But with Brook he was WAY more injured.

      Edwin Valero was the same way, Gatti same way.

      Some guys are just warriors. Wilder is the only true warrior in the current class outside of MAYBE Chisora and Arreola - and Fury proved his toughness as well.
      Wilder know Fury can not kill him. Wilder takes pride telling Fury he hits like a women even after getting pummelled in the 2nd fight and constantly telling Fury he was never hurt only to go out on his shield this fight. Fury has never demolished any opponent in his career like he has Wilder. You can revere him as much as you want but he has made Fury look like a power puncher and he is far from that

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      • Noelanthony
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        #83
        Originally posted by SN!PER

        So basically you're saying that a dead man (Wilder) was able to knock down Fury TWO times even while he was dead on his feet because he was willing to take risks.

        And a fresh AJ failed to knock down a cruiserweight even though he had energy until round 10 because he was scared to get countered.

        Wow, how much does AJ suck if he's afraid of a cruiserweight.
        Usyk was a constant moving target. Fury stood in front of Wilder the whole night. Fury who is notorious for head movement didn't even bother till the 7th round. Tyson wasn't interested in boxing he just wanted to hurt Wilder. They were both sitting ducks for each other.

        Usyk was elusive all night but Joshua fought like a fool there is no denying that . He fights like that again he gets knocked out in the rematch

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        • Johnny Rubber
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          #84
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          Deontay WIlder fought with passion, and left in all in the ring.

          Anthony Joshua vs Usyk gave a good effort, but did he honestly leave it all in the ring? Could he have fought with a tad more passion?

          Even Joshua himself has stated that, he can box 20 times better.

          Deontay Wilder even in a loss, has gained credit.
          Credit for what? leaving the ring sulking and bitter because he took another beating on the world stage? The guy doesn't have an ounce of dignity in him.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Noelanthony

            Wilder know Fury can not kill him. Wilder takes pride telling Fury he hits like a women even after getting pummelled in the 2nd fight and constantly telling Fury he was never hurt only to go out on his shield this fight. Fury has never demolished any opponent in his career like he has Wilder. You can revere him as much as you want but he has made Fury look like a power puncher and he is far from that
            Wilder straight up walked out of the hospital with no significant injury. He was tired, not hurt.

            Wilder demolished himself coming in too muscular and constantly leaning back instead of moving lateral.

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            • Fanofreason
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              #86
              He broke his hand in the 4th. Fury was done if not for that. Win is tainted. 4th fight on the way!

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                #87
                Originally posted by Rodtang
                I see all this talk of Wilder being a Top fighter because he's a Warrior and he's brave. Let me tell you folks about a fighter I'm a fan of that's brave and a Warrior. His name is Ricky Burns. He fought Raymundo Beltran and got a broken Jaw in the 2nd round. He fought on. He was dropped heavily in round 8 and he fought on. He saw the final bell. He retained his title that night with a draw. How he done this is beyond me. And Ricky was a good world champion but not a great one. Not an elite. But his durability and bravery is truly elite class. He is a true warrior. Someone said to me Ricky deserved to win that night for his bravery. But the truth is, no, he did not deserve to win. He was outboxed and should have lost his title. As much of a fan as I am I will be honest and not lie about wether he should have won, or his ability levels just because he is brave and a warrior.Wilder is a warrior without question. He'd proven that before he even stepped in a ring with Fury when he battled through fights he nearly lost against Eric Molina and Johann Duhaupas. And he proved it again an Saturday night for sure. But let's not exaggerate his abilities as a Boxer based on his his bravery. He is limited. Always has been and always will be.
                Let me ask you this. All of you.

                Would you rather see a guy who is so serious about the fight game that he keeps on coming, keeps on swinging until he's just too exhausted to continue because despite how much money he makes, he wants to at least try, for the fans that paid to see him?

                Or

                Would you rather see a HW do what Joshua did against Ruiz in the rematch - literally jog around and avoid engaging?

                Or what Frank Sanchez did against Ajagba - stand and stare while constantly moving and not throwing?

                Be honest here. Because you guys keep focusing on skill when this was never going to be that kind of fight. Fury showed no real skill in the second fight, he just weight bullied, just like the third fight.

                This was two giants slugging.

                This was toughman *ish.

                This was a brawl.

                That's how it should be judged, and how both fighters should be assessed.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Johnny Rubber

                  Credit for what? leaving the ring sulking and bitter because he took another beating on the world stage? The guy doesn't have an ounce of dignity in him.
                  This post of yours lack dignity, what is all this constantly moaning and crying over sportsmanship? What on earth is the new culture of people in boxing, pretending to be all applauded by lack of sportsmanship? Stop pretending.

                  The only respect Deontay Wilder needed to show Fury, was to train and not cheat 'That is all' that is the mandatory requirements of respect.

                  Wilder fought hard, until the end 'Gladiator, Warrior those are the descriptive's to describe his demeanor inside the ring'.

                  Wilder clearly does not like to lose, and even in a loss 'That same gameness inside the ring, is why he acts the way he does outside of it'.

                  Now I would not promote, all fighters to act like Wilder 'But he acts the way he does, due to his inability to accept a loss' In time, I am sure he will learn to deal with these sort of situations.


                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-13-2021, 06:46 AM.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Fanofreason
                    He broke his hand in the 4th. Fury was done if not for that. Win is tainted. 4th fight on the way!
                    Hush , you and Wilder have said enough

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #90
                      Yes, I give Joshua a credit for staying on his legs fighting Usyk.

                      The ring saved him.

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