Why’s Wilder getting praised for the savage beating he took?

[Rodtang]

Let me ask you this. All of you.

Would you rather see a guy who is so serious about the fight game that he keeps on coming, keeps on swinging until he's just too exhausted to continue because despite how much money he makes, he wants to at least try, for the fans that paid to see him?

Or

Would you rather see a HW do what Joshua did against Ruiz in the rematch - literally jog around and avoid engaging?

Or what Frank Sanchez did against Ajagba - stand and stare while constantly moving and not throwing?

Be honest here. Because you guys keep focusing on skill when this was never going to be that kind of fight. Fury showed no real skill in the second fight, he just weight bullied, just like the third fight.

This was two giants slugging.

This was toughman *ish.

This was a brawl.

That's how it should be judged, and how both fighters should be assessed.

Yeah but they're both overrated and fairly matched. Fury is marginally better. But he won 3 times so well done him. He gets to clown another day.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yeah but they're both overrated and fairly matched. Fury is marginally better. But he won 3 times so well done him. He gets to clown another day.

All I'm saying is, we need to mentally separate "fights" from "boxing matches". They are mutually exclusive.

Gatti/Ward trilogy was a bunch of fights. People called those classics.

Gatti/Mayweather was a boxing match. People called it a classic.


Srisaket/Choco 2 was a fight. People called it a classic until Srisaket's haters saw Choco laid out like Khan.

Srisaket/Choco 1 was a boxing match. People called it a classic until they saw Choco take his first L.


Freddie 'Lil Hagler' Norwood/Derrick 'Smoke' Gainer was a fight.

Freddie Norwood/Juan Manuel Marquez was a boxing match.


Ruiz/Arreola was a fight.
Ruiz/Joshua 2 was a marathon.
Ruiz/Joshua 1 was a boxing match.


In what I put above, the fights were arguably more exciting than the boxing matches, period. I dare anyone to disagree with me.

[Rodtang]

All I'm saying is, we need to mentally separate "fights" from "boxing matches". They are mutually exclusive.

Gatti/Ward trilogy was a bunch of fights. People called those classics.

Gatti/Mayweather was a boxing match. People called it a classic.


Srisaket/Choco 2 was a fight. People called it a classic until Srisaket's haters saw Choco laid out like Khan.

Srisaket/Choco 1 was a boxing match. People called it a classic until they saw Choco take his first L.


Freddie 'Lil Hagler' Norwood/Derrick 'Smoke' Gainer was a fight.

Freddie Norwood/Juan Manuel Marquez was a boxing match.


Ruiz/Arreola was a fight.
Ruiz/Joshua 2 was a marathon.
Ruiz/Joshua 1 was a boxing match.


In what I put above, the fights were arguably more exciting than the boxing matches, period. I dare anyone to disagree with me.

Of course fights are more exciting than boxing matches, for pure raw entertainment. Then again some like to see special technical operators at work. Naz Hamed, Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard for example. Everyone has their own tastes. What are you getting at? What does thus have to do with Wilder vs Fury?

[New England]

"exposed" in the first fight? a draw where he dropped fury 2x?

exposed in the 3rd fight? where he dropped fury 2x again in a classic? this is the best hw on the world he's dropping, mind you. teh guy who beat wladimir klitschko and who will get on a lot of top 15-20 all time HW lists when it's all said and done.

guy go outside and get laid. nobody is fooled into thinking you know what you're talking about or are cool


wilder has a huge heart and a huge punch, he's 6'7" and he's fast. we knew about everything but his heart prior to the fury trilogy. and even then we had seen him go through adversity. he does things that a boxing fan should admire. you're not a boxing fan, of course, and probably have somneone's **** in your ass and it's making you cranky

[Johnny Rubber]

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This post of yours lack dignity, what is all this constantly moaning and crying over sportsmanship? What on earth is the new culture of people in boxing, pretending to be all applauded by lack of sportsmanship? Stop pretending.

The only respect Deontay Wilder needed to show Fury, was to train and not cheat 'That is all' that is the mandatory requirements of respect.

Wilder fought hard, until the end 'Gladiator, Warrior those are the descriptive's to describe his demeanor inside the ring'.

Wilder clearly does not like to lose, and even in a loss 'That same gameness inside the ring, is why he acts the way he does outside of it'.

Now I would not promote, all fighters to act like Wilder 'But he acts the way he does, due to his inability to accept a loss' In time, I am sure he will learn to deal with these sort of situations.


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Your post is a decent example of a bitter person. If people having different values and professional morals to you are "lacking dignity", then loneliness could also be playing a part.

[ELPacman]

Deontay deserves credit for giving it all his all, even in a condition that was not suited for him. It is clear he cannot handle the heavier weight well and by rd4 looked gassed. Yet he stood up for the rest of the fight as a zombie and continued to give it his all. It made for a hella entertaining fight.

AJ who looked fresh until his eye was bust by Usyk looked like he wasn't even trying hard enough in prime condition... I'd say Deontay has the bigger heart even when fighting a losing fight.

[REdrUm0351]

He’s getting praise for his warrior spirit. You can talk about his lack of skills all day but no one can deny his heart. How many times have we watched a fighter talk big but not go out on their shield? Whether it’s GGG talking about Mexican style or the litany of fighters who get hate for quitting or just seemingly not really trying like Joshua.. Wilder who is seen as lesser skilled than some of those fighters who haven’t given their all put it all out there.

[snowdog]

He's not getting praised for the beating he took, he's getting praised for the fighting heart he showed during what is going to go down as one of the best fights of all time in a rare trilogy.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Of course fights are more exciting than boxing matches, for pure raw entertainment.

Ok then. You've answered the topic question.

Wilder is getting credit for a great FIGHT.

That's all.

Nobody has praised him for skills. We're praising him for FIGHTING - which many boxers refuse to do anymore.

[Rodtang]

Ok then. You've answered the topic question.

Wilder is getting credit for a great FIGHT.

That's all.

Nobody has praised him for skills. We're praising him for FIGHTING - which many boxers refuse to do anymore.

Ok cool. He was brave and fought hard. Undeniable. But some people are saying he showed he's a much better fighter now (as in improved skillset) and obviously some don't agree. But clearly he is a warrior.