Comments Thread For: Fury On KO Of Wilder: Shots Like That, They End Careers; He Took A Lot Of Punishment

[Monty Fisto]

Did you watch Usyk vs Chisora?

Yes. I've watched it a couple of times. How does that alter any of the points I made?

[wrecksracer]

fury also got long ass counts for all the knockdownss

I went back and timed those knockdowns. 6 seconds for the first. 8 seconds for the second. There was no long count in either case.

[Bobby Tony]

Yeah, I agree completely. If Fury had been left to beat Wilder up for longer in the second fight there might not have been a third one. He (Breland) saved Wilder to fight another day.

Yeah I had this thought too. However much $$ Wilder made last Saturday was possible only because Mark Breland stopped the second fight. Deontay should send him a check!

[mromano]

If Wilder doesn’t retire I could very well see these two fighting again as Wilder becomes a mandatory for at least one of the four belts should fury come to possess any other belt besides the wbc. Much can be argued about this fight, long counts, slow counts, if the ref had not let them wrestle, if the ref had stopped the fight sooner. It doesn’t matter. That was a legendary night of boxing and anyone with shhh to say about either man should go watch wrestling instead. That was a championship fight by every definition.

Honestly, I don't think Wilder wants to fight Fury ever again under any circumstances. Not only did he take a physical beating, but mentally vs Fury he has been reduced to nothing. He knows he just can't beat him.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes. I've watched it a couple of times. How does that alter any of the points I made?

You don't think Chisora telegraphs his shots?

[Reverb]

While they recover- Wilder and Joshua should do a 'wisdom gleaned from the internet' face off.
I think it'll be a long and drawn out affair amid choruses of yawns and tired sighs from the crowd, with none but the officials staying awake to the end , as they witter on and on in a silent stadium. Then we can all get a good sleep knowing that when the two competitors are forced to watch back the contest in its entirety, they'll realise what puddings they are and knock that stuff on the head for good. And a new day can begin afresh.

[Monty Fisto]

You don't think Chisora telegraphs his shots?

I think Chisora is a sufficiently different fighter to Wilder to think Usyk would take a different approach. Usyk didn't look great against Chisora at times, but like all his fights, the longer it went on, the more in control of it he became.

Usyk gave away nearly 40 pounds to Chisora and I didn't see him hurt at any point because although Chisora was touching him up at times, Usyk has a way of making sure shots that hit him aren't too clean. If he ever ends up fighting Wilder, it's unlikely there will be such a weight difference unless we see a radically heavier Wilder than even we saw against Fury and that would be radically slower and more easily tired version of Wilder. Is it unreasonable to suppose that Usyk would have a different plan when facing Wilder than facing Chisora? Maybe a plan that seeks to take into account his opponent's one big weapon?

My suggestion is: why don't we see whether Wilder is capable of winning a fight in the current decade before we declare him able to destroy everyone else bar Fury in the division?

[Luilun]

Wilder is a lug head so he might bounce back

[Dare7]

Wilder threw some killshots on Fury that Joshua or Usyk wouldn't be able to walk through or get up from.

What's funny is how you guys act like other fighters will just allow themselves to be there for wilder to punch them without throwing anything back.

Wilder won't even see Usyk and the punches coz of how fast and slick Usyk is and then wilder will be gassed out and then will eventually be knocked out.

Dillain Whyte, Chisora will Dogg Wilder all day and they will eventually land their shot.

I still stand by my word, AJ will sleep wilder. Potvekin will destroy Wilder. Wladimir Klitschko Dr steel Hammer, the master of clinch would have killed Wilder.

There's a reason wilder chose to fight guys like Gerald Washington, Chris Areola, Bryant Jennings, Ortiz, Stiverne, Dahaupas, SPILKA and who else while he stayed away from Klitschko, Whyte, Potvekin, Chisora, AJ. Coz he knows the guys from the first group he fought don't have pop in their punches. Go watch the Dahaupas fight, Dahaupas punched wilder's fave off. SPILKA was actually lighting Wilder's fave off before he was knocked and the reason these guys lost is coz they don't have knock out power like that. While the second set Wilder avoided have wicked knock out power to actually knock wilder head off as well as he can knock them out too but wilder don't want those chances.

Wilder cherry picked Fury but it was cherry pick gone wrong. The truth is from my conclusion of the third fight is that Fury really don't have that knock out power like that if not Wilder would have been knocked out in like the 6th round with one with brutal power.

Infact wilder should stay away from the light heavyweights guy like Gassiev & Usyk coz Gassiev has one of the most brutal body shot I have seen and he is heavy handed while Usyk will tire wilder out make him miss badly before knocking him out.

Wilder has always cherry pick and what you saw is that wilder has always been limited.

[ShoulderRoll]

I think Chisora is a sufficiently different fighter to Wilder to think Usyk would take a different approach. Usyk didn't look great against Chisora at times, but like all his fights, the longer it went on, the more in control of it he became.

Usyk gave away nearly 40 pounds to Chisora and I didn't see him hurt at any point because although Chisora was touching him up at times, Usyk has a way of making sure shots that hit him aren't too clean. If he ever ends up fighting Wilder, it's unlikely there will be such a weight difference unless we see a radically heavier Wilder than even we saw against Fury and that would be radically slower and more easily tired version of Wilder. Is it unreasonable to suppose that Usyk would have a different plan when facing Wilder than facing Chisora? Maybe a plan that seeks to take into account his opponent's one big weapon?

My suggestion is: why don't we see whether Wilder is capable of winning a fight in the current decade before we declare him able to destroy everyone else bar Fury in the division?

So now it's no longer about telegraphing punches, then?