Wilder vs Prime Haye?

[Armchairhero]

Haye was a big puncher, great boxer, fast reflexes and was tough ( look at his early loss to Carl Thompson), he has a chance against anyone. One things for sure if he stunned Wilder he would have finished him that round.

[Sparked_26]

Everyone is a better boxer than Wilder

True tbf but even style wise. Haye would barely engage until he took him out and Wilder would be trying to take his chin off. Perfect style for Haye really obviously with the real threat that Wilder could still brutalise him

[BodyBagz]

True tbf but even style wise. Haye would barely engage until he took him out and Wilder would be trying to take his chin off. Perfect style for Haye really obviously with the real threat that Wilder could still brutalise him

Haye, to me, never came across as a HW threat. Wilder has dealt with punchers with power (more or less than Haye is unimportant considering Wilder's flaws) and came away with W's. While Haye could easily outbox Wilder, his ego would tell him to trade.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Haye is winning in all fantasy fights. In reality, he lost all big fights.

[Earl-Hickey]

Wladimir only really landed one right hand on Haye, which he took. It's highly unlikely Wilder would be able to. When you say Haye would give Wilder opportunities, you must mean the Bellew Haye, not prime, who was a nightmare to land on.

Probably look very similar to Haye/Valuev, but with more peril of course.

Wilder can knock anyone out, but facing a mover, boxer-puncher like Haye would be a real problem for Wilder. He would never be able to set his feet for a start and would get countered with every missed shot.

Wlad spoke multiple times of his anger at not being able to land on Haye, because he really wanted to knock him out, more than anyone he ever faced. And Valuev (yes he ******), retired because he hated fighting such a small person he couldn't even touch. .

He's only been watching boxing since around the time of Haye vs Bellew judging from some of his opinions.

Anyway wilders best chance would actually be to fight mobile and stick to the jab like he did vs Stiverne, Haye is a slick counterpuncher and the hardest puncher Wilder would have ever fought, but Haye wasn't good on his front foot vs tall guys.

If Wilder comes in trying to throw his sloppy as right hand he will miss by miles and get his head taken off with a counter right hand, which he would probably literally fall, chin first onto.

If he boxes cagey and refuses to engage he might be able to get a points win.

[M312]

I'd place Wilder's right above Wlad's. Haye would look at Wilder's clumsy ways and get caught trying to attack. Haye was no beast at HW. He beat the bums and lost to the non bums.

Wlads right and Wilders right is not even remotely comparable? Wlads right is almost perfection in technique, Wilders is... Wild. He needs to set his feet and wings it most the time because his balance is a serious issue. Not sure how you could even suggest anything different.

Wilders power is the real deal, no doubt. But he barely wins any rounds because he has difficulty landing the right (or any shots) due to having such poor technique and balance.

If Fury's and Ortiz's evasiveness was a problem for Wilder, then Hayes evasiveness is an absolute nightmare scenario for him.

Say what you will about David Haye, he did lack killer instinct v the big guys, but he was incredibly difficult to land on and was a superb counter puncher. You can see on the YouTube video the issues Wilder had with Haye.

[M312]

He's only been watching boxing since around the time of Haye vs Bellew judging from some of his opinions.

Anyway wilders best chance would actually be to fight mobile and stick to the jab like he did vs Stiverne, Haye is a slick counterpuncher and the hardest puncher Wilder would have ever fought, but Haye wasn't good on his front foot vs tall guys.

If Wilder comes in trying to throw his sloppy as right hand he will miss by miles and get his head taken off with a counter right hand, which he would probably literally fall, chin first onto.

If he boxes cagey and refuses to engage he might be able to get a points win.

Yeah agree with this, although I can't see a Wilder points win, he simply wouldn't land enough. BUT if he did I wouldn't fancy Hayes chances.

The missing by miles and counter punching is mostly what I envision though. This is totally the wrong matchup for Wilder. A small guy, much faster, and balanced, evasive with a hellova counter punch...

[W1LL]

Interesting fight for sure, a real fire fight. The thing is, prime David Haye probably would have iced Anthony Joshua as well!

[True-Boxing-Fan]

I think they sparred Each other and wilder knocked him out or something

It was the other way around. Haye had him
flopping around everywhere.

[paulf]

Haye is winning in all fantasy fights. In reality, he lost all big fights.

Yeah this. I was a big fan of Haye at 200 and supported him at HW, but in reality he accomplished very little outside of relieving a sideshow named Valuev of a title he should have lost to both Ruiz and freakin Holyfield.

Wilder by windmill stoppage in two.