Does Sanchez technical skills on the same level as Usyk

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Wilder fans still love to obsess over a 50 year old dude

I’m not even a Wilder fan dumbass. I think Wilder is a pr***. Ortiz was a very good HW though and very good win for Wilder.

[billeau2]

do you agree that Sanchez is equally as skilled as Usyk

Ask yourself a question: When was Frank Sanchez mentioned before this latest fight? When was his career analyzed, when was he looked at critically? Lets compare Usyk in this regard: When Usyk fought Chisora he looked bad. So for those who look at technical skills and ability, the natural question was, what was Usyk going to do? And what he did was monumental. He made adjustments... lots of them. he made it so he could fight the way he fought at cruiser. This to me shows that Usyk is a great fighter, much like Tunney was eons ago. A ATG Cruiser who is so good, he could well become (like Tunney) an ATG heavyweight.

What do we know about Sanchez? First of all, he looked good against a prospect. He is explosive which is nice, but he doesn't really seem to throw a lot of punches, he seems to depend on the opponent to set a pace, etc. He hasn't really been in a fight with even a top guy in this weak division.

I think Usyk is a proven commodity. Sanchez looks promising, lets see if he can look as good against better competition.

[billeau2]

What exactly does usyk do differently than Sanchez style and technical wise because Sanchez throws faster combinations etc.? Anyone answer this for me please?

Its a little simplistic a question because its really general...Its like you asking me for a psychological insight to someone and I say "they are insecure" I mean... who isn't? you come into a world, learn you will get old and die, lol... Not exactly the foundations of a secure existence! But lets take a stab...

First of all both men have different approaches to boxing. Usyk is a hyeractive, speed changing, angle creating fighter with a great engine. He depends on being physical (not many people know this but watch his cruiser fights) to exploit his opponent into making mistakes, and when he gets a rhythm he is very good at finishing an opponent. Watch the Mike Hunter fight with Usyk.

Sanchez is a counter puncher who likes to match the other guy, he does not throw many punches, is a bit of an ambush fighter, staying away at a distance until he can find something to counter. Sanchez has explosive power, knows how to throw his shots and exit quickly, and technically can box well enough to find opportunities throughtout a fight to counter an opponent.

Both men are technically accomplished. Sanchez has a lazy habit of waiting for the action to initiate... But is probably one of the best counter punchers in the division. Usyk initiates the action and works off of angles when he is at his best. Usyk is a physical, and strong fighter and people underestimate this strength, Sanchez is not a physical fighter at all, and would be happy fighting from a distance and simply countering his opponent all night.

[billeau2]

I’m not even a Wilder fan dumbass. I think Wilder is a pr***. Ortiz was a very good HW though and very good win for Wilder.

Ortiz is the haterade of the month... Whyte was for a time as well. Now Whyte can do no wrong and Tito? he is old, greedy and takes candy away from kids!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ortiz is the haterade of the month... Whyte was for a time as well. Now Whyte can do no wrong and Tito? he is old, greedy and takes candy away from kids!

I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician.

[PBR Streetgang]

Nah Ortiz was badly avoided IMO. A lot of the top guys didn’t want that smoke.

After he iced Jennings nobody went near him for a good few years, they waited him out and he got old.

While I respect both you and Billeau (who like your comment) as posters, we will have to agree to disagree on our opinions of Ortiz.

I remember Ortiz got in a dispute with Golden Boy after he stopped Tony Thompson. Then he went to Matchroom and looked lackluster against Malik Scott and David Allen which kinda removed any buzz for an AJ or Whyte fight. After that he went to PBC and ultimately fought Wilder. I'm between that we Martz, Kauffman, Cojanu, Flores, etc.

[PBR Streetgang]

I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician.

I think Ortiz has skills but he also gasses after about 4-5 rounds. You can't talk about one aspect without talking about the other. Maybe 2 decades ago he was a complete fighter but he hasn't been one in a while.

[PBR Streetgang]

What do we know about Sanchez? First of all, he looked good against a prospect. He is explosive which is nice, but he doesn't really seem to throw a lot of punches, he seems to depend on the opponent to set a pace, etc. He hasn't really been in a fight with even a top guy in this weak division.

I think Usyk is a proven commodity. Sanchez looks promising, lets see if he can look as good against better competition.

I agree with your take on Sanchez and especially the bold. His fight against Dawejko was brutal to watch because Sanchez was willing to just do enough to win each round but wouldn't actually up the pace.

Ajagba had shown some red flags prior to the Sanchez fight. Besides getting dropped by Kiladze, he didn't look all that impressive against Cojanu and he fought sedately against Rice.

I think Frank is skilled and I think he'd handle himself relatively well against top guys but I'm not sure he'd beat them.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

While I respect both you and Billeau (who like your comment) as posters, we will have to agree to disagree on our opinions of Ortiz.

I remember Ortiz got in a dispute with Golden Boy after he stopped Tony Thompson. Then he went to Matchroom and looked lackluster against Malik Scott and David Allen which kinda removed any buzz for an AJ or Whyte fight. After that he went to PBC and ultimately fought Wilder. I'm between that we Martz, Kauffman, Cojanu, Flores, etc.

That’s fair enough man, I respect your opinion too, you’re one of the least biased posters on here.

[billeau2]

I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician.

People do not look at skills, and they often do comparisons with irrational bias'. Case in point: in a division that is chronically weak, the fact that one guy fought better competition is not that big of an indicator of ability. But... people would have to take the time and look at film, and break down what a fighter is truly capable of doing... too much work lol.