Fury is the only guy that can do that to Wilder.

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #51
    Other guys Wilder fought were beaten before it even started. excluding Ortiz. 10 years younger Ortiz would have knocked Wilder`s head off.

    Wilder is not a monster, he has a great cardio, but he throws punches like some kid playing in amusement park. Without any control and with every big punch he goes fully out of balance.

    You can do it only when you fight scared guys that respect you too much. In Fury fights, he did it only when Fury started being careless.

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    • QballLobo
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      #52
      Originally posted by The plunger man
      Ruiz and especially usyk are very skilled boxers with quick hands and good feet......wilder is none of that....Jesus open your eyes ffs
      usyk if he defends successfully against Joshua will turn out to be the best fighter in the division regardless of size.....he’s that skilled and the bigger the fighter he faces the quicker he is around them and makes them miss
      Different styles. Yes Usyk is quicker but he’s going to fight more cautious against a guy like Wilder.
      Wilder has his own advantages against a guy like Usyk.
      Fury has the blueprint to wear him down and neutralize that right hand.
      Usyk would have to have a different game plan and it’s likely he eats a big shot by Wilder and he’s basically a cruiser weight. Would love to see it happen but doubtful they ever fight as Usyk has the Joshua rematch and if he gets through that he’ll want Fury. Wilder is starting over and in his mid thirties time isn’t a luxury he has.

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      • GrandpaBernard
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        #53
        But not the only guy who can beat Deontay

        fight 1 showed us Deontay can be outboxed

        Usyk would pull it off

        I think Joshua could

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        • The plunger man
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          #54
          Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

          Wilder is not ali ,neither is fury nor is wilder or Joshua close to foreman


          But styles make fights regardless of who beats who

          I feel wilder would have Joshua's number

          Joshua would have to grow a pair and get inside on wilder but that means walking through a right hand or two within the 12 rounds and I don't see joshua sustaining enough damage to wilder before he takes a big one he doesn't recover from


          Can still see some drama wdrama eventual wilder right landing

          Wilder landed on fury a huge elusive boxer and ortiz who has great footwork and head movement


          Hea going to eventually land on Joshua
          Fury was on one bit elusive last night and even he said it......even that right hand it was fury who walked onto it.....but the fats are Joshua has beaten far more technical gifted fighter than wilder ....who just beat a 40 year Ortiz , struggled with molina , could not drop duhaupas , getting out boxed by spilka and Washington.
          under no time has wilder proved he could land on Joshua with who he has faced or beaten......was saved by an extra minute in his corner against Ortiz , hurt by molina ,knocked out several times in sparring by klitchcko......your talking out your ass son.
          joshua would brutalise wilder because Wilder has no technique , skill or left hand and Joshua would set him up and end him like he did povetkin , pulev and whyte....stick to fantasy James bind moves stuntman and keep doing those wheel spins


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            #55
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            Fury was on one bit elusive last night and even he said it......even that right hand it was fury who walked onto it.....but the fats are Joshua has beaten far more technical gifted fighter than wilder ....who just beat a 40 year Ortiz , struggled with molina , could not drop duhaupas , getting out boxed by spilka and Washington.
            under no time has wilder proved he could land on Joshua with who he has faced or beaten......was saved by an extra minute in his corner against Ortiz , hurt by molina ,knocked out several times in sparring by klitchcko......your talking out your ass son.
            joshua would brutalise wilder because Wilder has no technique , skill or left hand and Joshua would set him up and end him like he did povetkin , pulev and whyte....stick to fantasy James bind moves stuntman and keep doing those wheel spins

            Joshua's been hurt by whyte, povetkin,wladimir,ruiz and usyk

            Takam landed on joshua
            breazeale landed on joshua
            pulev landed on joshua
            Parker landed on joshua
            ruiz landed in the second fight after a huge taco binge

            cornish even landed punches on joshua

            But wilder wouldn't land one punch on joshua is what you are saying


            And for the record Luiz ortiz would have gave joshua hell if you don't acknowledge that then you are delusional

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              #56
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              But not the only guy who can beat Deontay

              fight 1 showed us Deontay can be outboxed

              Usyk would pull it off

              I think Joshua could
              The problem is nobody has fought Wilder and not gotten clipped at some point. So unless you are going to get him out of there early, you need to have a set of whiskers on you, because my god can he crack.

              What is yet to be seen is if his punch resistance is gone from the beatings fury gave him. It would seem so, as he was getting wobbled almost every round, and Fury isn't a big puncher.

              If his punch resistance is gone, I have a feeling a guy like Joshua could get him out of there pretty quick.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Mike_b
                It's the Ricky Hatton curse "can beat everyone except for pacman and money may" on any given night.
                ...and Vyacheslav Senchenko.

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                • The plunger man
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  Joshua's been hurt by whyte, povetkin,wladimir,ruiz and usyk

                  Takam landed on joshua
                  breazeale landed on joshua
                  pulev landed on joshua
                  Parker landed on joshua
                  ruiz landed in the second fight after a huge taco binge

                  cornish even landed punches on joshua

                  But wilder wouldn't land one punch on joshua is what you are saying


                  And for the record Luiz ortiz would have gave joshua hell if you don't acknowledge that then you are delusional
                  Ortiz is technically skilled Cuban heavyweight who was beating wilder in every round until wilder caught up...I didn’t say he would be easy as he is skilled the point is wilder needed a Hail Mary to pull it out the fire..the point he was outclassed in every department and ortiz was a whisker away and same people that say wlad was old refuse to accept that ortiz was as old...plus klitchko is an ex undisputed champion with proven credentials unlike ortiz so I go on that....and Joshua was only on his 17th pro fight.
                  as I said wilder turned a fight down with Joshua because he was likely going to be exposed.
                  But it’s irrelevant now because wilder is finished at the top now and I doubt very much he make it back.
                  I say Joshua beats wilder 8 out 10 because he levels above wilder in almost every department

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The plunger man
                    Ortiz is technically skilled Cuban heavyweight who was beating wilder in every round until wilder caught up...I didn’t say he would be easy as he is skilled the point is wilder needed a Hail Mary to pull it out the fire..the point he was outclassed in every department and ortiz was a whisker away and same people that say wlad was old refuse to accept that ortiz was as old...plus klitchko is an ex undisputed champion with proven credentials unlike ortiz so I go on that....and Joshua was only on his 17th pro fight.
                    as I said wilder turned a fight down with Joshua because he was likely going to be exposed.
                    But it’s irrelevant now because wilder is finished at the top now and I doubt very much he make it back.
                    I say Joshua beats wilder 8 out 10 because he levels above wilder in almost every department
                    So what happens if Joshua can't get a hail Mary against usyk ? Is he finished ? Where does he go from there

                    Wilder and Joshua have both lost twice now

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by nacho daddy

                      here is the ret ard who guaranteed wider would annihilate fury 100 times in the buildup to the fight. will you kneel to your master fury and admit how dumb you are? are you on suicide watch?


                      You would just love for that to happen now wouldn't you? However, the answer to your question is fuck no! i am not on any kind of suicide watch. This sport of boxing is like a crap shoot. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. it's no big deal.

                      I was a boxing fan before Deontay Wilder and would certainly be one after Deontay Wilder. However, I would to take this time congratulate all of you British, Fury and Anti-Deontay Wilder fans who got it right this time. I admit that i was wrong. I never seen this one coming. So I will eat my humble pie.

                      Fury performed much better than i expected and because of It I tip my hat to him as I wish him all of the best as he marches through the heavyweight division and represents it well.​

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