Fury is the only guy that can do that to Wilder.

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    #41
    Originally posted by Johnny Rubber

    Nope, Wilder turned his back on that fight along with a career best payday.
    Joshua is soft, fought scared against a CW. Fury and Wilder have too much dog for AJ to handle.

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      #42
      Originally posted by eco1

      But Ali did not want a 2nd part with Foreman because he knew something we did not.
      Ali, like Fury, won that fight before he entered the ring, with mind games. Go ask Foreman's dogs, who were poisoned.
      there was one belt back then if foreman stayed active after lyle it wouldn't have been long before ali was forced to fight him again ...

      You think he'd have wanted to face Norton 3 times or frazier

      That's the good thing about back then you couldn't cherry pick

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        #43
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

        I'm not claiming wilder beats Joshua on wins its more of a styles make fights sort of thing ...

        Alis loses to frazier ...Ali and frazier are then evenly matched against each other in the other two fights

        Ali loses to Ken Norton and struggles with Norton in the two rematches ,this is all after ali dominates liston and is already established as an atg


        Foreman builds up to a ranking then obliterates joe frazier (has fraziers number in every department almost toying with the guy that gave Ali absolute hell for 3 fights)...foreman always had power and some people would think it was a fluke back in the day possibly

        Then foreman manhandled and dominates Ken Norton who gave Ali hell in 3 fights


        Then he fights an already way past his best Ali and gets made to look amateurish then kod


        Foreman looked superior against frazier and Norton none of them looked like they belonged in there with foreman

        ali was very competitive with Norton and frazier they both looked like they belonged in the ring together


        Foreman didn't look like he belonged in the ring with Ali
        it’s irrelevant now as I said wilder is probably finished and it was wilder who turned own Joshua not the other way round.....wilder is not Ali lol.....
        wilder would have had a very short window to land on Joshua before Joshua set him up and nailed him and I am pretty confident of it....Joshua is technically superior in every department except the right hand and my money would be on Joshua exposing wilder as soon as he backs off with his arms down by his waist.


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          #44
          Originally posted by nacho daddy

          yes wilder showed me that he is a heavy bag has no stamina took a savage beating that will be permanent
          A heavy bag can flatten fury twice after four rounds ..just shows how bad this era is

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            #45
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

            A heavy bag can flatten fury twice after four rounds ..just shows how bad this era is
            you mean the guy that got up twice and savagely beat wilder?

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              #46
              Originally posted by QballLobo
              The difference for me is how Fury leaned on him with his weight and tired him out while not getting dropped for good. Guys Fury size usually can’t move well enough to get inside like him and have the speed to make Wilder pay once he was gassed and those hands dropped.
              How many heavyweights would do that to Wilder? Joshua’s not doing that for sure. Ruiz and Usyk got to him easily. I think Wilder would as well.
              Ruiz and especially usyk are very skilled boxers with quick hands and good feet......wilder is none of that....Jesus open your eyes ffs
              usyk if he defends successfully against Joshua will turn out to be the best fighter in the division regardless of size.....he’s that skilled and the bigger the fighter he faces the quicker he is around them and makes them miss

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                #47
                Originally posted by The plunger man
                it’s irrelevant now as I said wilder is probably finished and it was wilder who turned own Joshua not the other way round.....wilder is not Ali lol.....
                wilder would have had a very short window to land on Joshua before Joshua set him up and nailed him and I am pretty confident of it....Joshua is technically superior in every department except the right hand and my money would be on Joshua exposing wilder as soon as he backs off with his arms down by his waist.

                Wilder is not ali ,neither is fury nor is wilder or Joshua close to foreman


                But styles make fights regardless of who beats who

                I feel wilder would have Joshua's number

                Joshua would have to grow a pair and get inside on wilder but that means walking through a right hand or two within the 12 rounds and I don't see joshua sustaining enough damage to wilder before he takes a big one he doesn't recover from


                Can still see some drama wdrama eventual wilder right landing

                Wilder landed on fury a huge elusive boxer and ortiz who has great footwork and head movement


                Hea going to eventually land on Joshua

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  A heavy bag can flatten fury twice after four rounds ..just shows how bad this era is
                  Are u ****** or rtarded??? Clearly u know jack sht about boxing.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by nacho daddy

                    you mean the guy that got up twice and savagely beat wilder?
                    Yeah him ...it's just you're calling wilder a heavy bag but he's flattened fury 4 times...

                    I agree I think wilder has been nothing but hype just to make big money fights..the guy got his brains boxed in by ortiz and molina and was gifted a belt ..also started boxing at what 23 or something?


                    But yeT he's the best name on furys resume haha and people really think fury is the goat it's laughable

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702

                      Are u ****** or rtarded??? Clearly u know jack sht about boxing.
                      In what regards? I never called him a heavybag I was responding to somebody calling him a heavybag

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