Fury is the only guy that can do that to Wilder.

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  • AboutBillions
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    #21
    Originally posted by QballLobo
    Rewatched the fight early this morning.
    There are at least 4 moments where any other fighter gets dropped for good with what Wilder was throwing.
    Fury was just that rare combination of size, length, and enough movement to keep Wilder guessing and tiring him out.
    Its unfortunate that Wilder didn’t expand his game when he was younger to go along with that power. He relied to much on that bomb in his right hand.
    Wilder has been the only guy to do that to fury

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    • The plunger man
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      #22
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

      What fighter has struggled to find Joshua's chin?? If Wilder can land on fury he can land on Joshua far easier I said a 50/50 but I favour Wilder 70/30 tbh
      as I said I will take the fighter who has a better punch variation and technique over a one trick pony any day ...wilder has consistently be outboxed and caught by far less fighters than Joshua ...Molina , ortiz and that journeyman who dropped him.....Joshua has beaten and knocked out far better fighters than wilder...there’s a reason why klitchko knocked out wilder several times during sparring ...on the other hand Joshua has consistently stepped in the ring with the best fighters in the division...wilder has not and only a fool argues otherwise....Wilder has a punchers chance against Joshua that’s it....wilder is finished now so guess we won’t find out...Joshua improves ...wilder has not in any way shape or form

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        #23
        Originally posted by The plunger man
        stick to eating tacos if you think that...wilder is appalling in almost every department ...was ortiz , spilka , duhaupas beating wilder...spilka was fighting wilder on even terms and yet Derrick chisora obliterated spilka
        Wilder would've iced Joshua. AJ would've been terrified of him when he faced up the bronze bomber in the flesh.

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          #24
          Originally posted by denium

          Wilder would've iced Joshua. AJ would've been terrified of him when he faced up the bronze bomber in the flesh.
          wilder turned down Joshua and those are the facts.....I’ll give all the credit in the world last night and he showed true heart but basing fury’s wins over wilder is wrong ....all I want to see is fury go on to beat other challengers now and if he beats usyk or Joshua I’ll give him my support.
          it was sloppy as hell that fight and even you know it.
          wilder on the other hand is piss poor and would be tied up in knots by usyk and Koed by Joshua.
          open your eyes ffs fella wilder is terrible....he’s finished so I doubt we will find out now.
          as I said now it’s time for fury to clean up the division and if he does I’ll bow to him but I’m picking usyk over anybody in that division...I slept on usyk one time I won’t do it again.
          I will say fury showed heart , tenacity and will power last night and he also showed class in that ring interview so cong**** to him.
          when you see wilder tottering around that ring like a baby giraffe with no defence , no left hand , no combinations , arms by his waist do you just choose not to absorb it...like shallow Hal seeing something that is not actually there.
          The fury Joshua fight will still happen as it’s mega still and the uk will lap it up as what Warren said yesterday.
          it’s time for fury to now prove undoubtedly he’s the best and I have a feeling usyk will be steered clear of


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            #25
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            as I said I will take the fighter who has a better punch variation and technique over a one trick pony any day ...wilder has consistently be outboxed and caught by far less fighters than Joshua ...Molina , ortiz and that journeyman who dropped him.....Joshua has beaten and knocked out far better fighters than wilder...there’s a reason why klitchko knocked out wilder several times during sparring ...on the other hand Joshua has consistently stepped in the ring with the best fighters in the division...wilder has not and only a fool argues otherwise....Wilder has a punchers chance against Joshua that’s it....wilder is finished now so guess we won’t find out...Joshua improves ...wilder has not in any way shape or form
            Joshua has fought the better opposition that's true but he's never faced anyone with the right hand power or speed of wilder and Joshua has fallen to a lot let dangerous weapons ...it's Joshua's preferred fight distance and static head movement that plays into wilders strength

            Wilder had also proved he has more heart than Joshua especially after last night's fight

            I feel wilder just has to land that shot once and I believe he would in a tough test for both fighters...I just feel Joshua folds sooner and once he's hurt he stays hurt wilder recovers....Joshua gets hit and if he plays defensive and keeps it long he's in ramge for that dangerous right hand

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              #26
              Originally posted by The plunger man
              wilder turned down Joshua and those are the facts.....I’ll give all the credit in the world last night and he showed true heart but basing fury’s wins over wilder is wrong ....all I want to see is fury go on to beat other challengers now and if he beats usyk or Joshua I’ll give him my support.
              it was sloppy as hell that fight and even you know it.
              wilder on the other hand is piss poor and would be tied up in knots by usyk and Koed by Joshua.
              open your eyes ffs fella wilder is terrible....he’s finished so I doubt we will find out now.
              as I said now it’s time for fury to clean up the division and if he does I’ll bow to him but I’m picking usyk over anybody in that division...I slept on usyk one time I won’t do it again.
              I will say fury showed heart , tenacity and will power last night and he also showed class in that ring interview so cong**** to him.
              when you see wilder tottering around that ring like a baby giraffe with no defence , no left hand , no combinations , arms by his waist do you just choose not to absorb it...like shallow Hal seeing something that is not actually there.
              The fury Joshua fight will still happen as it’s mega still and the uk will lap it up as what Warren said yesterday.
              it’s time for fury to now prove undoubtedly he’s the best and I have a feeling usyk will be steered clear of

              Wilder is terrible in an all time low heavyweight era

              Picture tommy morrison and throw him in there with all wilders opponents and who would morrison have trouble with ? Breazeale because of the height maybe ? Ortiz and fury

              He would have polaxed molina in 3 rounds though


              Wilder is not the sonny liston ,George foreman or Mike tyson the promoters and fury would like us to believe however the casuals eat it up and regard him as a face on the mount Rushmore of heavyweight boxing..casuals atg mount Rushmore heavyweight faces are fury,Joshua,wilder and now usyk who replaced ortiz who replaced whyte?

              that's the day and age we are loving in

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                #27
                Wilder only won against tomato cans.

                A guy like Usyk would f him up badly, that 1-2 out of balance shots Wilder does might catch a tomato can, but he will not win against any of the elite ones.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Szef

                  id take that bet
                  No prob. Hopefully it happens.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by AboutBillions

                    Wilder has been the only guy to do that to fury
                    Steve cunningham and pavjic put fury down just as heavy as wilder did


                    The likes of Holmes and Ali would have dominated wilder without being knocked down

                    The likes of foreman and tyson would have completely destroyed wilder and nullified his right hand
                    Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 10-10-2021, 10:00 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NaijaD
                      Nah his resume isn't deep enough to make this statement. Unless he fights them we will never know
                      Same could be said of Crawford - yet people swear he's the best fighter in the world. What's different?

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