Tonight showed Why Joshua will never be great

[Toffee]

Let's not compare Wilder and Fury. One has a resume, and the other's best performance is a defeat.

Wilder has plenty of heart. I've never disputed that. I'll dispute that Joshua doesn't have any... he was hit and hurt badly by Whyte, Klitschko and Ruiz (1). He gets up too. The difference is that he's also been able to get up and win or come back and win.

[KingGilgamesh]

AJ would trash Wilder just as Fury did. AJs resume dwarfs Wilders. Wilder has one name on his record, the elderly man known as Luis Ortiz who is overrated as hell since he beat nobody of note.

AJ has at least a better chance vs Fury than Wilder, AJ beat the most top 10 Heavyweights but Usyk might beat em all.

I actually think Joshua's resume is garbage. None of the names on it have gone on to do a thing. Except Whyte, who has been KOed by Povetkin and likely will be beat by Wallin. I dont really think anyone in this era has a great resume. Joshua's has been built up by those who **** to casuals but last weeks performance made it abudantly clear where he stands in the division. It was not an inspired performance at all. And the fact you're now resorting to clinging to his resume kind of proves it.

[Da Pimper]

He just doesn't have heart like that, athlete not a fighter.

A keyboard warrior who never accomplished a thing in his life saying that a professional boxer doesn’t have heart and isn’t a fighter.

there’s boxingscene for you.

[daggum]

I actually think Joshua's resume is garbage. None of the names on it have gone on to do a thing. Except Whyte, who has been KOed by Povetkin and likely will be beat by Wallin. I dont really think anyone in this era has a great resume. Joshua's has been built up by those who **** to casuals but last weeks performance made it abudantly clear where he stands in the division. It was not an inspired performance at all. And the fact you're now resorting to clinging to his resume kind of proves it.

whyte was ko'd by povetkin...yet whyte ko'd povetkin too. left that part out? only works one way i guess. and also joshua ko'd povetkin as well so shouldnt you be saying povetkin went on to ko whyte? i guess you can twist anything but joshua has a lot of good solid wins where wilder only has 1 and thats the difference.

[KingGilgamesh]

whyte was ko'd by povetkin...yet whyte ko'd povetkin too. left that part out? only works one way i guess. and also joshua ko'd povetkin as well so shouldnt you be saying povetkin went on to ko whyte? i guess you can twist anything but joshua has a lot of good solid wins where wilder only has 1 and thats the difference.

LOOOOL and look at the Povetkin Whyte KOed, a guy who could barely make it to the ring. Are you really clinging to that performance as meaning something? Seriously?

The problem with Joshua fans is that you dont use your eyes, you rely on **** like resume to create your reality. Half his wins, against guys like Parker and Ruiz, were nothing to really write home about performance wise either. No one could have looked at those and said, yes, this is the heavyweight champion of the world! And we all know it.

[Zelda]

AJ would trash Wilder just as Fury did. AJs resume dwarfs Wilders. Wilder has one name on his record, the elderly man known as Luis Ortiz who is overrated as hell since he beat nobody of note.

AJ has at least a better chance vs Fury than Wilder, AJ beat the most top 10 Heavyweights but Usyk might beat em all.

Too bad it is the actual fighters that will need to fight in the ring, not their resume. And actual fighters need to be able to take punches and to show a heart when the going gets tough. Joshua is a much better boxer so he has a good chance but his aggression, ability to take punches, and will power is far less than Wilder and if a slimmer Wilder shows up, so is Joshua's athleticism. They both have roughly equal chances and before today I would have fancied Wilder. If Wilder can take Fury's punches, he can take a few from Joshua too. And if Wilder can catch Fury, he can definitely catch Joshua as well.

After today, it really depends on what kind of Wilder shows up because he has taken some heavy shots in his last two fights. Plus, the most important thing would be his will and hunger to take the long path for another shot at the belt. In my opinion, he doesn't. He might cash out by taking 2-3 more fights depending on their outcome but that will and energy will be less and less.

And no, Usyk does not beat them all. Joshua lost to Usyk because he fought the wrong fight. Usyk would have been unbeatable if he were the same size as a Joshua, Wilder or Fury but he's not. Fury beats him, Wilder I am not sure, but in my opinion Joshua too beats him in the rematch.

[Sun_Tzu]

Jesus Christ. Fury vs Wilder has nothing to do with Joshua. The guy is a two time HW champion of the world with a shot to be a three time champion. It amazes me people sit behind the keyboard in judgement of world class athletes and take themselves seriously. Most of this board is filled with ridiculous fat fcks who couldnt throw a proper punch to save their lives.

[TMLT87]

I dont think AJ will be a great, hes simply not good enough to dominate for long periods, but this fight had **** all to do with that. Wilder fights like he does because he cant fight any other way, he cant adjust. Joshua can box a little bit and thats what he needed to do vs Ruiz in the rematch.

[Frankie Coffeecake]

A keyboard warrior who never accomplished a thing in his life saying that a professional boxer doesn’t have heart and isn’t a fighter.

there’s boxingscene for you.

I'm not charging people 50 bucks a pop to watch me fight though am I.

[Frankie Coffeecake]

Jesus Christ. Fury vs Wilder has nothing to do with Joshua. The guy is a two time HW champion of the world with a shot to be a three time champion. It amazes me people sit behind the keyboard in judgement of world class athletes and take themselves seriously. Most of this board is filled with ridiculous fat fcks who couldnt throw a proper punch to save their lives.

Sit your ass down, these guys have made millions off of paying fans, so those fans are entitled to an opinion.

We aren't here to blindly worship these guys, there's levels at the top of this sport, and Joshua is on the level that panics and freezes up when he takes a good punch, neither fury or Wilder are.

Stop being so sensitive, I'm sure Joshua isn't going to read my opinion and get upset. And he doesn't need the likes of you stooging for him.