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  • Frankie Coffeecake
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    Tonight showed Why Joshua will never be great

    He just doesn't have heart like that, athlete not a fighter.

    We have seen guys get put flat to sleep on their faces and come back 6 months later and fight with no fear.

    Joshua, he's never even been hurt that bad in his career but he panics and freezes, look he's 10x the man ill ever be but at the top level of combat sports you can't have nerves like that and get away with it forever.
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    did you watch the wladmir klitchko fight? go look at wlad's knock out/stoppage record...don't even doubt how big a puncher wlad was..and aj went toe to toe with him.

    ive posted this earlier

    keep in mind here that Tyson fury couldnt even hurt Chisora in this manner in 2 fights they fought.
    Whilst Spiltzka had Wilder rocked, in a daze and was outboxing him, wilder ko'd him in the 9th round. Yet Chisora did a total annihilation of that guy in 2 rounds.

    so chisora is miles better than wilder.


    i was kind of kidding there, but it's still a fact. i know triangle theories and all that...but Tyson Fury was not some magical killer vs anyone else bums wilder and the odd ave/bum fighter. he is big and heavy handed when he lets them go, but he's not done that to any other top fighter. He stopped Chisora by volume for example..and that was chisora at his worst btw. Chisora was knocked out clean by david haye before that.

    levels...

    Wilder rejected opportunities to fight aj and whyte..but could cherry pick fury because he believed fury couldnt hurt him.
    have a little think about that. John Fury has also openly said before that AJ would beat Wilder (that is when he was being honest after hje lost his rag at Wilder's accusations, he started speaking honestly and said AJ was far better than wilder).

    just because aj lost to usyk you guys think that makes wilder better than he is smh.


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    • Frankie Coffeecake
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      #3
      I think Joshua is a lot more talented than Wilder.

      But his mental confidence is not the same level.

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      • daggum
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        wilder losing again proves joshua isnt great...lol how can yo connect the two things? i dont think joshua is great cause his resume isnt that great but wilder isnt great cause he has no resume. you cant be great cause you can get beat up a lot by a pillow puncher before getting ko'd. im pretty sure joshua could do that too but ok

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          #5
          Originally posted by Frankie Coffeecake
          I think Joshua is a lot more talented than Wilder.

          But his mental confidence is not the same level.
          He's a businessman with a snake oil salesman as promoter not a fighter at heart.

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          • Jubei
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            AJ would trash Wilder just as Fury did. AJs resume dwarfs Wilders. Wilder has one name on his record, the elderly man known as Luis Ortiz who is overrated as hell since he beat nobody of note.

            AJ has at least a better chance vs Fury than Wilder, AJ beat the most top 10 Heavyweights but Usyk might beat em all.
            Last edited by Jubei; 10-10-2021, 02:08 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Frankie Coffeecake
              He just doesn't have heart like that, athlete not a fighter.

              We have seen guys get put flat to sleep on their faces and come back 6 months later and fight with no fear.

              Joshua, he's never even been hurt that bad in his career but he panics and freezes, look he's 10x the man ill ever be but at the top level of combat sports you can't have nerves like that and get away with it forever.
              Well... Boxing is a hybrid activity... Its more than a sport, and not quite a fight with no restrictions... I do think there is a slightly nuanced landscape when we look at fighters as compared to athletes. Vitali Klitsko quitting against Byrd is somethng an athlete would do... fighting with one eye (Greb) is something a fighter would do.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Jubei
                AJ would trash Wilder just as Fury did. AJs resume dwarfs Wilders. Wilder has one name on his record, the elderly man known as Luis Ortiz who is overrated as hell since he beat nobody of note.

                AJ has at least a better chance vs Fury than Wilder, AJ beat the most top 10 Heavyweights but Usyk might beat em all.
                You AJ fans are deluded

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  wilder losing again proves joshua isnt great...lol how can yo connect the two things? i dont think joshua is great cause his resume isnt that great but wilder isnt great cause he has no resume. you cant be great cause you can get beat up a lot by a pillow puncher before getting ko'd. im pretty sure joshua could do that too but ok
                  Wilder proved he has ability because of the effort he put fourth, including dropping Fury. Nobody has that great a resume, nobody is that good except Fury and Usyk. You make an idiotic argument by drawing a distinction that is irrelevent. Thats according to your own words btw...If you want to split hairs then yes Joshua is better than Wilder, based on resume. But resume means so little considering the relative weakness of the entire division.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jubei
                    AJ would trash Wilder just as Fury did. AJs resume dwarfs Wilders. Wilder has one name on his record, the elderly man known as Luis Ortiz who is overrated as hell since he beat nobody of note.

                    AJ has at least a better chance vs Fury than Wilder, AJ beat the most top 10 Heavyweights but Usyk might beat em all.
                    Idle speculation...

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