Horrbile strategy by Malik Scott, truly horrible!

[pesticid]

I dont think the strategybwasbhorrible.... But it was horrible for wilder. Instead of lifting weights... He should have been jumping rope and running miles to improve his stamina.

Stamina and cardio won't do you any work if you don't have strength in your legs. Wilder's footwork mechanics are horrible and his legs are weak. He can run all day and skill rope all night. When you get pushed back, down and you bend your body so low to throw full power body shots you will be done in a few rounds

[Gate keeper]

Honestly I don't think it was that bad. It was a calculated risk that almost paid off. Wilder was never going to outbox Fury over 12 rounds especially under Malik Scott's tutelage. They simply worked with what they had and that was Wilder's power and his lack of boxing fundamentals. He actually did a lot better than the first fight where Fury was not 100% and the 2nd fight when he was. Fury is just too damn good and has a hell of a chin. Most other boxers would have definitely been out of there if they'd taken those shots. I think we saw the best possible version of Wilder we were ever going to get.

[pesticid]

Honestly I don't think it was that bad. It was a calculated risk that almost paid off. Wilder was never going to outbox Fury over 12 rounds especially under Malik Scott's tutelage. They simply worked with what they had and that was Wilder's power and his lack of boxing fundamentals. He actually did a lot better than the first fight where Fury was not 100% and the 2nd fight when he was. Fury is just too damn good and has a hell of a chin. Most other boxers would have definitely been out of there if they'd taken those shots. I think we saw the best possible version of Wilder we were ever going to get.

So he was about to stop Fury in the first 2 rounds with body jabs and straight rights to the body? The third round he was gassed already. As a power puncher you want to throw at the head in the early going while your opponent's not warmed up yet and you're not tired. Meanwhile he got himself all tired by bending at the waist and at the knees these first two rounds. He still ends up dropping Fury twice in the 4th where he was very tired. Imagine he dropped Fury in the first or the second.

[Stephankotyk]

Actually i like how wilder started, furys body had a big red swallow after round one. Though after that wilder went his usual headhunting which didnt work very well.

[DaNeutral.]

The original strategy and idea was sound, asking Deontay to do it while coming in at the weight and condition he was at was very naive. Fury soon got to grips with it anyway.

But controlling the distance, keeping Fury on the back foot and trying to draw his arms down to his body all makes basic sense in theory. Too basic in all honesty though yet also way too much to ask of Wilder

Scott would be a step backwards after having Mark Breland in your corner but he never really listened to Breland so it's more of a sideways step.

[Gate keeper]

I also disagree with the stamina argument. Every boxer could obviously do a lot more with more stamina but you can't just increase your stamina like an anime where you increase your power level. No matter how much you train it will always have limits. In the ring you have to treat your stamina like money and spend it wisely. You could spend it on moving a lot evading hits or on power shots to get them out early or on jabs and combinations in spots to accumulate points. Ward beat Kovalev both fights because he spent his stamina more much more wisely where as Kovalev was moving all over the place to maintain a high level of boxing. After the first GGG fight, you actually can tell that Canelo learned to fight using his stamina much more efficiently, he doesn't move around as much as he used to which allows him to spend more of his stamina on power shots.

Wilder spent his stamina on power shots early and also on carrying Fury's weight during clenches and he handled the weight a lot better this time because of his added mass. Had he come in lighter it would have been harder to deal with like it was the 2nd fight, Fury stated this too because he noticed it as well. The extra mass also gave Wilder a better ability to take Fury's shots. Again nothings ever guaranteed, whenever you gain one thing in strategy you usually lose something else so you just have to take a risk and bank on the right strategy. In this case, they took a risk banking on Wilder's power and not on strategic half measures like AJ who looked horrible pretending he was a lightweight trying to win on points. I think the fight is more reflexive of just how good Fury's chin is than Wilder's bad strategy.

[Mmann2e]

The original strategy and idea was sound, asking Deontay to do it while coming in at the weight and condition he was at was very naive. Fury soon got to grips with it anyway.

But controlling the distance, keeping Fury on the back foot and trying to draw his arms down to his body all makes basic sense in theory. Too basic in all honesty though yet also way too much to ask of Wilder

Scott would be a step backwards after having Mark Breland in your corner but he never really listened to Breland so it's more of a sideways step.

It wouldn't matter the weight or what was discussed Wilder fought a better, taller fighter and the only thing he could've done was build a time machine and tell his younger self to go get trained by Virgil Hunter or Emmanuel Steward

[Gate keeper]

So he was about to stop Fury in the first 2 rounds with body jabs and straight rights to the body? The third round he was gassed already. As a power puncher you want to throw at the head in the early going while your opponent's not warmed up yet and you're not tired. Meanwhile he got himself all tired by bending at the waist and at the knees these first two rounds. He still ends up dropping Fury twice in the 4th where he was very tired. Imagine he dropped Fury in the first or the second.

Not necessarily in the first 2 rounds but body shots are like investments and pay dividends later in the fight. A hurt body also forces a boxer to fight differently and more cautiously than they would if they're not hurt to the body. And those body shots were definitely causing Fury problems and forced him to back up and have to work harder to get inside. For all we know, had Wilder not thrown them Fury would have gotten inside a lot earlier and done enough damage to change the fight early and Wilder may not have gotten those knock downs early. It's hard to say to say how much the body shots really hurt Fury because Wilder stopped throwing them which allowed Fury to get inside much easier and do damage. And I'm not sure the bending down got him tired at all, it seemed more like it was the constant power shots early that got him tired - including the body shots. But again it was a calculated risk.

[DaNeutral.]

It wouldn't matter the weight or what was discussed Wilder fought a better, taller fighter and the only thing he could've done was build a time machine and tell his younger self to go get trained by Virgil Hunter or Emmanuel Steward

That is relatively true but they had to try something, it was true amateur hour chit and real naive to think it would work but it was good to see Deontay doing more than just trying to be perfect for 2 seconds

[dibzvincent143]

I challenge you to spend 2 rounds of shadow boxing only throwing jabs to the body and rear hand rights to the body, then tell me how you feel in the third round, the round Wilder got knocked down. You're probably not a big man like Wilder so it should be easier but still, go ahead and try it. But don't cheat, throw these shots hard and with proper body mechanics (bending at the waist to the sides and bending the knees with each shot).

Again, he did not do any of that in the second fight and wilder was still gassed by the 3rd round lmao. Because a 6’9 277 lb guy is pummeling him on top.
I get what you’re trying to say that it’s hard for a heavyweight to do that on high volume but that’s not the main reason he lost. They tried that to set up the right hand. Even lennox and ward was impressed. The moment fury started landing all strategy and techniques of wilder went out of the window and swing for the fences began.