Anthony Joshua's biggest problems and the way forward

[Dolor]

He did a lot of things wrong in that fight.

And it starts with the 1st 3 rds where he coasted.

You are right, otherwise it was pretty even. Especially round 12.

[Dressedallover]

He is just not that good. I knew he was going to at least have problems with Usyk but did not expect him to lose like that. Look at Joshua, he lost to Ruiz. Ruiz is a very skilled and talented fighter but he admittedly partied between the first and second fight and was way out of shape. Usyk is a different level of figher than Ruiz, so it only makes sense he would beat joshua. I think he should fight WIlder and Fury in no particular order and call it a day. I think it is about 50/50 with wilder but Fury almost certainly knocks Joshua out.

[BangEM]

You are right, otherwise it was pretty even. Especially round 12.

That's basically what I saw after watching the fight again. Usyk's face tells the story and his face was more bruised than AJ's.

Taking the first 3 rds off did him in. If he had started strong - the result would be different.

He can win the rematch with a new coach and different mindset.

[Marchegiano]

He needs a proper trainer. McCracken is ****.

Joshua has had the same criticisms because McCracken never trained them out of him. Smoother than he was in 2015 but still stiff as a ****** in a whore house.

Joshua was sent into the Ruiz fight with the wrong plan and was given no instructions on how to adapt.

Joshua was told he's doing well when he was doing poorly.

Joshua was sent into the Usyk fight with the wrong plan and was given **** all advice for how to turn it around

Post fight interviews Rob does not take the blame for his fighter losing, tells the reporter there is no drawing board then repeats the same exact plan Joshua just tried and lost with like it's the only way to possible beat Usyk.

Joshua hits hard because he's huge and strong, McCracken still has a ****ed up powerline on the kid

Joshua puts together combination because for a big man he's got decent speed but his posturing is ass and makes him easy to angle

Joshua is still stiff because his posturing and powerline are still ****ed up

Joshua still fights on tracks

Joshua still only exclusively employees amatuer style techniques.


Most importantly, Joshua always does what is asked of him, becomes who hsi trainer told him to, and does not win when he needs it most. Wlad is a name and that's **** all it he does for Joshua, was not prime, had just lost he last, and sat on ass for two years. Pov? Old as ****. Pulev? Never was a force in the division. Whyte? Domestic level. Ruiz and Usyk were his prime decent and excellent wins and Joshua did everything that his trainer asked except make his trainer's **** plan work for him.

"You've got to apply pressure behind your jab and your right hand and you got to keep him off balance and put together shots when you get there. Usyk's just so good" - McCrack

TF did I just watch? Did Joshua not pressure? Did he not use his jab and right pretty exclusively? I did not see many lead hooks and ****. TF kind of response is that? "Oh we'll do exactly what got our ass kicked but next time we'll be better" ****ing mook. Fire that prick.


Never said Breland needed fired because of water or towels or any of that ****. I did say fire that prick though, he didn't have **** all to say when his man was losing, badly, **** all nothing. Quietest corner I ever seen in a losing corner of a title fight.

Seriously can not decide who is worse. The dumb mother ****er who comes up with bad plans and has his head so far up his ass he can't see that plan lead his guy to have no chance, or, the mother ****er with no plan or advice at all? I dunno, what I do know is Teddy Atlas isn't that damn great a trainer and I'd much rather watch his bull**** ass weird fireman or ghost speeches than quiet ass Breland ain't even gonna mumble no useless advice or dumbass McCracken who can't see himself failing when it happens.


Joshua, imo, is a bit sadder because he listens to Rob. He does exactly what his trainer asks him to do. Get with Teddy, that fireman bull**** is when AJ needed to hear not some **** about doing well when he's getting ****ed up.

[Stuntman Mike]

What fucjing fight were u watching? Joshua's punches felt like they're being thrown underwater. There was absolutely zero snap to them. Any decent cruiser could have taken those. Joshua looked ****ing lethargic.

Did you see the right hand he landed on usyk or were you watching a different fight?

And the body shots he landed mid rounds you could hear through the crowd and over the loud British commentators and if you knew boxing you would have seen how hurt usyk was from those body punches ..usyk was hurt several times he just has atg will heart and desire something you obviously know nothing off ..if you can't see it you are oblivious because you have nothing in common with it ...you just expect fighters to take those shots and recover if they did....

If that was anyone else in there including fury taking the punches Joshua landed on usyk it would have been far more dramatic just a shame usyk handled it so well and hid it so well

Any decent cruiser?? Are we talking Steve cunningham in his prime or ???


You know **** all about boxing ..last night was a great night for boxing and has put usyk into the upper echelon

Joshua wasn't himself is that what you are implying... did you see the fight going exactly this way beforehand?

[Smash]

And he has definitely made shiiitload of money. As for me, I won't stop being a superfan and I still believe he beats Fury and Wilder.

idk as soon as i read to the word superfan i just suddenly started tearing up

[thetruthteller]

The gameplan was ******, he didn't use his size/strength advantage and tried to outbox Usyk in the centre of the ring. He's got another shot and a win in a rematch will actually look better in the long run than if he blew Usyk out in the first fight. Usyk is now a top 2 HW and Joshua will be 3x HW champ if he wins.

I thought the same thing. Trying to out box a pure boxer, was a mistake. also slimming down was a mistake too. He was fighting Usyks fight and playing right into his hands. What AJ needs to do in the next fight is bully Usyk and use his size on his. Keep his guard high and cut the ring off. Don't let Usyk move and pick him apart. The rematch will show if AJ and his team have adjusted or not. Also, when a guy is constantly fighting the best out there, he's going to fail from time to time. If he sat back and fought the Seferis, Schwarz and Pianetas of the division, he would always look good. So we can all tip our hat to Usyk for now but he does have to beat AJ twice so we will see how it goes then

[Stuntman Mike]

That's basically what I saw after watching the fight again. Usyk's face tells the story and his face was more bruised than AJ's.

Taking the first 3 rds off did him in. If he had started strong - the result would be different.

He can win the rematch with a new coach and different mindset.

You agree that Joshua won round 12 ?

Usyks face tells the story that he can take a huge punchers power ..nobody is saying usyk hits harder than Joshua we all know Joshua can give a good slap...I anything Joshua's face just shows how dominated he was considering there is a vast differential in power between the two fighters .

Joshua was lit up like a Christmas tree but gave a valiant effort and landed several bombs just not enough to deter the gargantuan heart and will of usyk...

Let's all give credit where credit is due

Usyk beat an animal in there,a genetic freak with monstrous power ,great defense,timing and footwork

Joshua is great usyk is just an atg ...


Last night proves size doesn't matter


A prime clay would toy with today's heavyweights and wladimir

I guess we can all agree with that now

[removed]

denium what do you think?

Joshua is what we always said he is. He's a physically gifted athlete who was turned into a boxer. He's had a great career helped by careful matchmaking from his promoter, but i feel he lacks that "fighter" mentality when the going gets tough. To me, Joshua looks like he doesn't really want to be there, look at his face, he looks like he's taking a long, painful s***

Compare that to Tyson Fury who even when he was fighting Wallin with one eye hanging out, he was absolutely loving it! Guys like Usyk and Fury were born to be boxers from day 1 and it tells.

Usyk was spectacular last night and there's no shame that Joshua lost him tbh.

I agree with most of your points, he defo needs to change trainer and gym. Maybe move to Shane McGuigan and learn to fight with a more relaxed slick style like Okolie did.

[nacho daddy]

even tho he lost joshua should be glad he was not in the ring with Fury who would have given him a savage beating and ended his career