Anthony Joshua's biggest problems and the way forward

[Stuntman Mike]

Yes i saw the fight going this way. It was ****ing obvious. I've never rated Joshua but he looked even worse because he's been spending the last two years on this bum ass "elite boxer" crusade. He dropped weight too quick and hadn't remotely acclimatised to his new slimmer self. Usyk has a solid chin but he looked visibly troubled by Chisora. He's not invincible. Joshua was just too sluggish to make any real difference.

So I take it you put your life savings or anything of note down the bookmakers ...cong**** on the huge win

Seem somewhat bitter you should be set for life

[KillaMane26]

Wilder is a mental midget.

Lmaoooo...... Seriously if Joshua gets knocks out by Wilder and outclassed by Fury what you gonna say? You gonna continue talking shyt or give these guys respect for beating a guy like Joshua ( still a top heavyweight)

[PRINCEKOOL]

You just said a lot without saying anything.

Why do you always bring up Haye like he was special when he never beat anyone? Haye got sparked by 45-yr old Carl Thompson and was never impressive in all his championship fights in the HW. Ran against Valuev. Ran against Wlad. Get Haye out of here, man - he was a scammer.

I'd give you Fury's innate ability to employ rough tactics and fight rather than box when he needs to. He's a traveller and it's a cultural thing for him. But apart from foot work and head movement - Fury isn't as polished as AJ when it comes to throwing punches.

AJ's biggest problems are mental and coaching - not ability. He's a thing of beauty whenever he let his hands go. However, that's impossible to do when you're always overthinking, second guessing and always trying new things against elite opponents. He needs to pick the style that works for him the best, get a coach that knows more about professional boxing - not amateurs. And check back in for a 3-fight run. If he can't do that - he needs to retire.

He has made enough money - he doesn't need to keep disgracing himself if he can't get his mentality right. The tools are there - he just needs better coaching and a better mentality. The idiocy about learning on the job has to stop - it's 8 yrs already - time to stick to what you do best.

There are many fighters, who's combinations are a thing of beauty when they let there hands go 'That means nothing'.

Joshua is forcing himself to be something he is not, he is not a genius masterful boxer. Where was his Jab last night? Joshua does not have a jab ****EM, it is not hurtful or dominant at all.

What won him the Olympic Gold Medal was his physicality and just the basic fundamentals 'Nothing really that sophisticated'.

That is what he needs to go back to, not this super light Joshua 'Who is obsessing over the intricates of the game'.

Joshua's game has regressed, even when he was letting his hands go vs Pulev 'His combinations don't look sharp or dynamic anymore'.

I don't think you want to point the finger at Joshua himself, I don't think this is about coaching. I think what goes down in training, Joshua has the final say on.

He has clearly changed his training since Ruiz I 'I think he needs to be training, and coming with the same approach to the sport as he did Pre-Ruiz I.

Because he has regressed with his new approach to the game.

He needs to embrace that raw ability he has again, that force that he used to be 'The attitude that he used to carry, he needs to go back to that'.

[PRINCEKOOL]

All of this is accurate. Joshua relies on his physical advantages more than anything else.

On equal playing field, guys equally big, he is very ordinary. Even versus guys nearly as big as him he has many holes.

Joshua is NOT a thinker in the ring and if he wants to be successful at a high level needs to get back to basics.

Not sure if AJ doubled his jab up even ONCE in the fight. Or hooked off the jab. He wanted to play counter-puncher for...reasons unknown. He doesnt have the mind for that so not sure what his trainer had him doing tbh

When I was reading Frank Bruno's book, at one point he acknowledged. That his strengths where his physicality, and the basic fundamentals of boxing.

So that is what he obsessed about to the complete maximum. People can mock Bruno all they want 'But the man had a dominant heavy jab, and he stuck to the fundamentals

People compare Anthony Joshua to Frank Bruno 'Joshua has not even got a jab, does not seem to block much punches either'.

Bruno vs Lewis, was one of the best heavyweight fights which displayed 'Warfare with the jab, between both fighters'.

Yes that is what I have been saying, Joshua is not training and playing to his strengths. He is trying to be like all these other guys.

When Joshua beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'It may have been ether Carl Froch or Tony Bellew who stated? 'If you was on a ship which was sinking, you would want Anthony Joshua on that ship'.

And at the time that statement was made 'I thought to myself, that is a great way to summarize Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was and still is the greatest heavyweight title fight, of the past 20 years. That fight was fought at a higher intensity than Usyk vs Joshua 'And Usyk is not as dangerous or as good as Kiltschko'.

Joshua beat Kiltschko through force and determination, through physicality and basic fundamentals 'Mixed in his combination punching'. That Joshua who fought Kiltschko, would of found a way to beat Usyk 'He would of just understood, I need to come forward and take this guy out'. And I don't think Usyk would of been able to cope with that type of power and raw physicality.

****Em, the media and people surrounding Joshua. Have been trying to tell everybody, that Joshua is a better fighter now than he was then 'When in reality he has regressed, he is functioning in a repressed form'.

Joshua needs to get back on the jollof rice, yams and plantains. Never-mind this protein shakes, whatever 'Joshua if he wants to win this rematch, needs to rediscover who he was before' It is all documented, if he wants to duplicate that type of lifestyle and training, he can.

Joshua last night lost a battle. A war is collection of battles, the war is still on going.

On a side note, without a shadow of a doubt. The heavyweight division is the best division in the sport.

[boxinglife8]

When I was reading Frank Bruno's book, at one point he acknowledged. That his strengths where his physicality, and the basic fundamentals of boxing.

So that is what he obsessed about to the complete maximum. People can mock Bruno all they want 'But the man had a dominant heavy jab, and he stuck to the fundamentals

People compare Anthony Joshua to Frank Bruno 'Joshua has not even got a jab, does not seem to block much punches either'.

Bruno vs Lewis, was one of the best heavyweight fights which displayed 'Warfare with the jab, between both fighters'.

Yes that is what I have been saying, Joshua is not training and playing to his strengths. He is trying to be like all these other guys.

When Joshua beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'It may have been ether Carl Froch or Tony Bellew who stated? 'If you was on a ship which was sinking, you would want Anthony Joshua on that ship'.

And at the time that statement was made 'I thought to myself, that is a great way to summarize Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was and still is the greatest heavyweight title fight, of the past 20 years. That fight was fought at a higher intensity than Usyk vs Joshua 'And Usyk is not as dangerous or as good as Kiltschko'.

Joshua beat Kiltschko through force and determination, through physicality and basic fundamentals 'Mixed in his combination punching'. That Joshua who fought Kiltschko, would of found a way to beat Usyk 'He would of just understood, I need to come forward and take this guy out'. And I don't think Usyk would of been able to cope with that type of power and raw physicality.

****Em, the media and people surrounding Joshua. Have been trying to tell everybody, that Joshua is a better fighter now than he was then 'When in reality he has regressed, he is functioning in a repressed form'.

Joshua needs to get back on the jollof rice, yams and plantains. Never-mind this protein shakes, whatever 'Joshua if he wants to win this rematch, needs to rediscover who he was before' It is all documented, if he wants to duplicate that type of lifestyle and training, he can.

Joshua last night lost a battle. A war is collection of battles, the war is still on going.

On a side note, without a shadow of a doubt. The heavyweight division is the best division in the sport.

Damnn I agree with most of this however when Joshua wants it he has an amazing jab for example ruiz 1 and 2 and pulev fights.Yesterday his jab was slo and telegraphed and he was also not doubling on his shots.However i agree that joshua needs the physicallity and combinations of the klitchsko fight .He was an absolute warrior that fight.Amazing post tho!

[BangEM]

Damnn I agree with most of this however when Joshua wants it he has an amazing jab for example ruiz 1 and 2 and pulev fights.Yesterday his jab was slo and telegraphed and he was also not doubling on his shots.However i agree that joshua needs the physicallity and combinations of the klitchsko fight .He was an absolute warrior that fight.Amazing post tho!

He needs to fix himself mentally. He has the tools but something is wrong with him.

He has been out there today laughing the same way he was smiling with Usyk whilst Usyk kept his game face on. Usyk doesn’t even respect his talent but the guy who’s meant to be a champ was acting like a fan.

AJ is a weird guy. But shockingly, he’s a different animal in regular life. Hearn must have some secret about him because it’s like he’s being forced to do what he doesn’t want to do. It might be time for him to hang it up.

[#1PaperChamp]

When I was reading Frank Bruno's book, at one point he acknowledged. That his strengths where his physicality, and the basic fundamentals of boxing.

So that is what he obsessed about to the complete maximum. People can mock Bruno all they want 'But the man had a dominant heavy jab, and he stuck to the fundamentals

People compare Anthony Joshua to Frank Bruno 'Joshua has not even got a jab, does not seem to block much punches either'.

Bruno vs Lewis, was one of the best heavyweight fights which displayed 'Warfare with the jab, between both fighters'.

Yes that is what I have been saying, Joshua is not training and playing to his strengths. He is trying to be like all these other guys.

When Joshua beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'It may have been ether Carl Froch or Tony Bellew who stated? 'If you was on a ship which was sinking, you would want Anthony Joshua on that ship'.

And at the time that statement was made 'I thought to myself, that is a great way to summarize Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was and still is the greatest heavyweight title fight, of the past 20 years. That fight was fought at a higher intensity than Usyk vs Joshua 'And Usyk is not as dangerous or as good as Kiltschko'.

Joshua beat Kiltschko through force and determination, through physicality and basic fundamentals 'Mixed in his combination punching'. That Joshua who fought Kiltschko, would of found a way to beat Usyk 'He would of just understood, I need to come forward and take this guy out'. And I don't think Usyk would of been able to cope with that type of power and raw physicality.

****Em, the media and people surrounding Joshua. Have been trying to tell everybody, that Joshua is a better fighter now than he was then 'When in reality he has regressed, he is functioning in a repressed form'.

Joshua needs to get back on the jollof rice, yams and plantains. Never-mind this protein shakes, whatever 'Joshua if he wants to win this rematch, needs to rediscover who he was before' It is all documented, if he wants to duplicate that type of lifestyle and training, he can.

Joshua last night lost a battle. A war is collection of battles, the war is still on going.

On a side note, without a shadow of a doubt. The heavyweight division is the best division in the sport.

The reality is this: some of the trolls are inadvertently right. Ruiz kind of ruined Joshua because Joshua decided he needed to change his style - he didnt. But his training and fighting have become "more safe" and that doesn't make the most sense for a taller, longer, stronger man.

Joshua lost a shootout with Ruiz and to be honest I'm not 100% sure he would lose a shootout in a rematch with Ruiz. When the two did actually rematch Joshua fought scared and careful. It was definitely no shootout. Dont forget Joshua landed a beautiful KD on Ruiz before he himself was KD and during Ruiz combo Joshua missed a few HUGE shots that, if landed, would've ended the fight.

Joshua and his team got it wrong when they moved away from his natural style of USING HIS SIZE and walking opponents down. He fights much more safe and he doesnt have the arsenal to do it and its too late in his career to try and change it.

Like you said, a fighter can still be EXCELLENT using a ramrod jab and sticking to the basics...Vernon Forrest, Frank Bruno, and Golovkin are also excellent fighters that dont necessarily have a complicated style yet theyre effective. AJ couldve fit snug in that group but hes trying to recreate the wheel...and hes going to lose fights and fans doing that

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

Good points. Im no fan of AJ but I appreciate your loyalty to the guy even after the loss. You are a true fan, not a bandwagoner.

My view is that Rob McCracken has to go. He has tried to turn AJ into a slick boxer ever since Ruiz 1. But that is not the way AJ should fight, he should be trained to be an inside fighting machine going in with malicious intent and combinations. AJ is a strong and big dude, this boxing dancing around style is NOT HIM.

Imagine if Floyd Mayweather were to completely disregard his defense?

I have not paid close enough attention to say if AJ has switched trainers or something, but in his earlier fights he was completely different.

[nacho daddy]

Fury and Usyk have nothing in common. One has great foot work moving forward - the other uses bully tactics going on the front foot. Fury’s foot work is for his back foot.

I dont care if fury does the macarena in the ring he still retires joshua

[BangEM]

I dont care if furt does the macarena in the ring he still retires joshua

Both will fight in the next 2 yrs with or without the belts unless Fury chickens out. And we shall find out then.