Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Anthony Joshua's Fought Not One Heavyweight in His Prime

[Sid-Knee]

FACT: AJ ducked Wilder TWICE in 2018... sorry if that makes you cry


lets face it, you idiot pacfans ALWAYS back the hypejobs... what happened to Matthyse ?


kid, how the fk is your hero AJ going to beat Tyson Fury...?


Fury will beat AJ any way he wants


getting spanked by Ruiz was not the writing on the wall for AJ... ducking Wilder was the writing on the wall for AJ






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When did he duck him 2018? In your mind? Is that where you get your evidence?

Who the f3ck is talking about Manny Pacquiao? You're just throwing any old shlt out there. Maybe stick to the subject matter.

AJ will beat him because he's the better fighter. How else is he going to do it? Make him a cup of tea?

Fury has to get into the ring before he "Beats him any way he wants".

What does "Writing on the wall" even mean in your mind? AJ can't beat these guys because of a delusional belief that AJ ducked Wilder? Do you accept that Fury said he wasn't ready for AJ when coming back? Do you accept Wilder ducking AJ at any point?

[aboutfkntime]

When did he duck him 2018? In your mind? Is that where you get your evidence?

Who the f3ck is talking about Manny Pacquiao? You're just throwing any old shlt out there. Maybe stick to the subject matter.

you are a silly pac-stain... you guys know nothing about this sport, you always get everything wrong

AJ will beat him because he's the better fighter. How else is he going to do it? Make him a cup of tea?

Fury has to get into the ring before he "Beats him any way he wants".

What does "Writing on the wall" even mean in your mind? AJ can't beat these guys because of a delusional belief that AJ ducked Wilder? Do you accept that Fury said he wasn't ready for AJ when coming back? Do you accept Wilder ducking AJ at any point?

FACT: Fury is better than Joshua in EVERY department... it is hilarious you cannot see that

how the fk is AJ a better fighter than Fury ??? ... explain how you came to that conclusion kid LMAO




1) Joshua demanded $50mil to fight Wilder... Wilder unexpectedly agreed... but Joshua choked on his wheaties, and ran for the hills

2) Joshua low-balled Wilder with a offer of $12m,.. and then quickly ran off to fight Povetkin

3) Joshua low-balled Wilder with a offer of $15m... shat himself when Wilder accepted... but then refused to supply a date and signature on the contract, and included ridiculous impediments that made no sense at all... such as, no rematch in the event of a draw LMAO

how fkn ridiculous is that? ... what the fk were they thinking?

“The fact is they didn’t want this fight. He asked for 50 million dollars, never thinking we’d come up with it. When we came up with it, he said’ I don’t want to fight in the United States, I’ll take it for less in the UK. He sent us a bull*** offer thinking we’ll never take it...and we took it," Finkel said.

“But today I get a letter saying; ‘We’re not going to fight you next, but we’ll fight you the fight after that...and it will be April 13th at Wembley Stadium. So basically, he can tell me next year, but he can’t tell me a date for this year," Finkel said.

“There’s no doubt in my mind they don’t want to fight with Deontay Wilder in April,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News.

“If they did, they wouldn’t have sent a contract with more impediments in it than the first time. I mean, they don’t even have their own lies together right now.

“Joshua said he’d send a signed contract that removed all impediments. That it would be signed by him. But the contract is not even signed by him – it’s signed by Eddie Hearn.

“Barry (Hearn) also sent a tweet out yesterday stating the contract was signed by ‘AJ’ but it’s not. And…added to that, they have now put more blocks on the rematch clause than before.

“In the original contract for a fight in 2018, Deontay rejected it because of the rematch clause only being in place for Joshua. Now, they’ve added that a rematch won’t take place if it’s a draw.

“I mean, there has to be a rematch if there’s a draw, they don’t even have their own story straight!”

He continued: “The bottom line is, they don’t want to make the fight. They didn’t want to make it in September. And they don’t want to make it now – for April.

“If they did, they would have changed the things (Deontay was adverse to in the original contract) like Joshua said they would.

“Obviously, whether Anthony Joshua is afraid…or they are afraid, they are fooling the public regarding this fight. They are not looking to fight Deontay Wilder.

“They are lying, they don’t want to fight or they wouldn’t have sent the contract the way they did.

“The fact is, they sent a contract worse than before and left in the things Deontay wanted to be changed. They have no desire to fight on April 13 whatsoever and they keep telling the public lies.

Asked whether this could be the final nail in the coffin for Anthony Joshua vs Wilder, Finkel responded: “I’m just fed up discussing this bull**** with them because it’s one bull**** after another.

“People who want to be their fans – that’s fine. But don’t believe the lies coming from the Joshua side surrounding these negotiations.

“Deontay Wilder wants this fight. It’s not down to anything on his side that’s it’s not happening.

“If however, terms are realistic in the future, we would be open to receiving the contract we were expecting. We would be happy to look at it if those impediments were removed – as previously stated by Joshua himself,” he added.

here is a link to a thread where I schooled you up on this subject 2 years ago...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...815192&page=24









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[billeau2]

It seems you agree with that extremist. This isn't about agreeing with me. This is about a weirdo saying things that are deranged and irrational. I'm calling him to task.

I'm insecure about what? You do know when delusions get out of hand you should see someone about it? Because if that is what you're seeing in this situation, then you're exactly the same kind of person he is. There is nothing to make me insecure. Maybe though i'll claim Audley Harrison knocks out all Americans and is the more proven fighter. When people laugh at me and ask me to explain myself, i'll just deflect and accuse people of being "Insecure".

So AJ makes the same mistakes over and over again? That's where he's "Lacking"? What was it that he "Lacked"? For someone to be exposed in a certain area, it needs to be something they are incapable of changing. AJ changed it the very next fight. It was a mistake like any person could make in every walk of life. But i'm all ears to what you think it is.

If you ever see me being insecure about any of your Heavyweights and making things up, please feel free to specifically point it out to me and discuss it. It does have to be a reality based situation though. Whatever goes on in your head, is your problem. I'm not the person you should be talking to in that area.

Yes AJ won the next fight. HE LOST the fight before... admit it. It does not mean AJ is not worthy.

the only extremist is you when you castigate a whole nation and their fans. Many boxing fans don't care about the nationality of a fighter.

[thetruthteller]

18 days until the fight and Fury is still not in the US and he is still fat. Not good signs...

[Boxing56]

Joshua's resume is much better than Fury's. It's not even close.

[champion4ever]

That might be true but I still like AJ's resume better than Fury's. At least Joshua defends his titles and does mandatory bouts. Where as Tyson Fury hasn't done any such thing in his entire boxing career.

[juggernaut666]

Fury admits Klitchko was better then Wilder so does he not understand they both share the same top win while he has no title defenses ?

[buge]

Well put.
That's the conundrum, do you see Fury's 2 wins against 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog. Or Ajs more consistency against average & old former generation fighter's? As better.
All the top 3 have lost my faith now. Fury was my last horse in the race but 7 fight's in 7 year's

[Sid-Knee]

you are a silly pac-stain... you guys know nothing about this sport, you always get everything wrong















FACT: Fury is better than Joshua in EVERY department... it is hilarious you cannot see that

how the fk is AJ a better fighter than Fury ??? ... explain how you came to that conclusion kid LMAO




1) Joshua demanded $50mil to fight Wilder... Wilder unexpectedly agreed... but Joshua choked on his wheaties, and ran for the hills

2) Joshua low-balled Wilder with a offer of $12m,.. and then quickly ran off to fight Povetkin

3) Joshua low-balled Wilder with a offer of $15m... shat himself when Wilder accepted... but then refused to supply a date and signature on the contract, and included ridiculous impediments that made no sense at all... such as, no rematch in the event of a draw LMAO

how fkn ridiculous is that? ... what the fk were they thinking?









here is a link to a thread where I schooled you up on this subject 2 years ago...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...815192&page=24









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You wasted your time with this strawman and deflection, son.

Do you accept at any point Wilder ducking AJ? Do you accept the fact Fury claimed that he wasn't ready for AJ and Whyte when he came back, only to then fight Wilder?

Quite simple really. Well, for a normal person anyway.

[Sid-Knee]

Yes AJ won the next fight. HE LOST the fight before... admit it. It does not mean AJ is not worthy.

the only extremist is you when you castigate a whole nation and their fans. Many boxing fans don't care about the nationality of a fighter.

I know AJ lost the first fight. That's not my point. My point is the reason he lost. Context is everything. You do not take everything at face value. I don't become a deranged nutcase and claim Ali was exposed by Berbick and therefore he's shlt. I know it was due to Ali being shot. Context makes all the difference.

What was AJ lacking? What is exclusive to him that other fighters in Heavyweight history don't have when they lost?

And please, point out specifically where you got this idea in your head that i'm insecure about American Heavyweights? Where in this thread gave you this idea? Point it out to me and explain. Don't deflect again. If you want to talk rationally, then you're going to have to do your bit. Otherwise, it's pointless. But if you want bitterness about each others Heavyweights.... Well, it's clear it's all one way. But you seem to have missed it all. Impossible to. So, what does that mean?

Do you even read what Americans write and all the characteristics they have? You should look up all their patterns and read the diagnoses. It's chilling. Deflection, lies, slander, projection, narcissism, hypocrisy, contradictions etc etc... It's on a pathological level. I'd be very worried if this was my country all these people were coming from.

I hate evil people. Like anyone does when they have morals. Don't fit that description, we're cool. If you do, then we have serious problems. Like the psychologists explain when coming up against these behaviours. They advise strongly to stay away. And for good reason.