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  • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

    I am not sure about that.

    AJ had a hard time with Wladimir Klitschko. He won by stoppage, but he had a hard time with him. While yes, AJ was more aggressive than Fury, that was AJ's fault. I know Wlad vs Fury is an unwatchable fight, but Fury fought Wlad's fight and won. Wlad fought AJ's fight and damn near won. Then there's the Andy Ruiz debacle. I am the first to say AJ overlooked Ruiz and that's why he lost, it's obvious. He took him seriously in the rematch and won. So, the issue there was not that AJ couldn't beat Ruiz, it was that AJ did not take Ruiz seriously. Not every fighter that does not have a shiny 0 in the loss column is someone who can just be easily trashed. But it is clear that AJ still makes silly mistakes as a fighter, and he is still growing. Fury, in his 2 fights vs Wilder and his fight vs Wladimir Klitschko has shown he is the better fighter imo. We still do not know who would win between Wilder and AJ.

    Fury is the Ring champion at HW, he is also the HW champion in the TBRB rankings, as well as the Lineal champion at HW (for defeating W. Klitshcko). Tyson Fury is better than Anthony Joshua. Not only did he beat the Ring/Lineal champion there (W. Klitshcko), the #1 (Fury) fought the #2 guy (Wilder) and KO'ed him. Joshua was KO'ed by the then #6 HW.

    Joshua better not take Usyk lightly. Sure, his detractors will belittle the win and make believe they were not giving Usyk a chance but it will be even worse if he loses. He needs to go in there next Saturday and take Usyk as seriously as he would take Fury or Wilder. He can't go in there like he did vs Wlad or Ruiz I, trying to bully and KO them. He needs to be smart and let the KO happen, not force it.
    You have to take into account Fury was a 7year pro on his 25th fight, whilst AJ was a 3 and a half year pro on his 19th fight. So the experience levels are different, with AJ being more inexperienced. Fury fought a Wlad who had lost the fire in his belly and he barely sc****d past him. AJ was fighting a Wlad who had that fire back and was giving it his all to recapture former glories. Inexperience nearly cost him. You have to ask why after losing to Fury, Wlad wanted the rematch, but after losing to AJ he didn't. He felt he let himself down against Fury, and he did. He knew he could beat him in that rematch. After losing to AJ, he knew he'd lost to a new young hungry star in the making and that it was over for him, the passing of the torch so to speak, and chose not to take that rematch. Says it all for me. The Ruiz debacle as you put it, AJ was clearly not right. He probably looked past him and it cost him as you say. I can't say Wilder adds to Furys resume. He's woeful with a punch. And if he'd fought AJ I believe he would have beaten him a long time ago, in one try. But if the guy doesn't want to fight him what can he do? I don't do ring and tbrb belts and lineal imaginary belts. AJ has never been able to fight for the ring belt, because when he was rated no1, the no2 wouldn't fight him. So I can't take seriously a belt that the world no1 in a division can't get to fight for, that makes no sense. Same for lineal. It's fresh air. So if Wallin beats Fury on a cut he gets to run around claiming he's a champion lol. Lot of nonsense. Fury is not better until he proves it by stepping in the ring and beating him, like he has done with Wilder and Chisora. That's fighters we can say he's better than. The Usyk fight worries me. He's a quality fighter, and although I think AJ can win, I'm not sure if he will. It's a serious fight for sure and I'm looking forward to it.

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    • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
      so Ruiz could barely outbox arreola but can outbox fury? Lmaooooooooooooooooooo. Guy, Cunningham was a cruiserweight with cruiserweight movement. Ruiz is stuck in cement. The only similarity is height and maybe hand speed. Horrible comparison.
      The fact that you think you’re educating someone with this nonsense you write is laughable. I’m wondering if you even follow boxing or if you’re just an Aj groupie. You’re actually arguing that a short fat hamburgler can out box fury who is the consensus best heavyweight boxer of this generation. You’re also trying to convince me that fury and wilder who are about to face each other for a third time actually fear Joshua who was knocked into submission, has been fighting guys like pulev and is now fighting a blown up cruiser. Have some sense. You’re clearly delusional and are only speaking out of unconditional Joshua groupie love.
      The educational comment was from a different comment with different context to this one, so if you can't even get your comments in alignment to my comments properly, that shows your struggling right there. My thoughts on Ruiz vs Fury is an opinion that's all, and I may be proven wrong, but if your gonna ridicule Ruiz then truly study Furys record because if Ruiz can't beat Fury he most probably beats just about everybody on Furys resume minus Wlad. Fury being the concenus best heavyweight of this generation is not proven. Based on what. Because the ring magazine says so ? AJ has done more than Fury in just about every department. More defences ( wouldnt be hard as Fury has none ), more unifications ( wouldn't be hard as Fury has none ), more top ten opponents. Do I really gave to explain this to you? Surely you could do your own research. Who beats who is opinion based and we can argue all day, but until the fights are done we won't know. But what's been done up to now we do know and Fury is not the best heavyweight. Thats not even proven yet on whats been achieved so far. I'm seeing at least 4 others out there that may beat him, one or two I think definitely will. Time will tell. Enjoy the fights and stay safe.

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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        You like to keep projecting don't you? I can feel how nervous you are of me through the screen. The only emotional one here with all this madness is you.

        Now, would you like to acknowledge the points after you made all these silly posts, or are you going to deflect like always?


        who would be nervous of you? You’re the same loser who talks tough on a keyboard but then declines to follow up on any of his empty threats. You’re all the same clown who types 33 times in 1 thread like an angry little ****** troll because he’s trying to convince everyone that he’s tough, that the world fears Joshua and that the inferior boxing country you’re from actually can hold a candle to the US. Some of us have better shet to do with our Saturdays than spending all day dealing with an inbred muppet such as yourself. So go on and reply 52 more times because I know what I just wrote made your mangina sore. Pu$$y.

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        • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          That's actually a lie. Hearn offered Fury a 3 fight contract with the 3rd fight being AJ. Fury said he wasn't ready for AJ and needed tune ups before thinking about that fight. Then over a week later, Fury announces the Wilder fight and starts slandering AJ again. Nobody even knew about the Wilder fight until later on. It all came about so fast.

          There's video footage on Youtube that exposes your lies. But it's what i've come to expect. When you follow a pathological liar, you as fans have to lie with him to keep up.
          Take a knee Sid knee. You’re a day late and a dollar short. Find someone else to act out your unwarranted superiority complex.

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          • 3 weeks until October 9th and Fury isn't even here in the States yet. I think he is waiting to see what happens with the AJ vs Usyk fight.

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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
              A fragile soul is someone who dedicates so much of their time on line to slander someone that causes them emotional pain. That would be you. But your arrogance has you trying to convince yourself that you are the smart one. You're not. You're a creepy emotional wreak.

              Fury is slandering AJ. Not trolling. It's done because he has an inferiority complex against him and fears him. You'll see why when Fury stops running away from the fight.





              FACT: AJ ducked Wilder TWICE in 2018... sorry if that makes you cry


              lets face it, you idiot pacfans ALWAYS back the hypejobs... what happened to Matthyse ?


              kid, how the fk is your hero AJ going to beat Tyson Fury...?


              Fury will beat AJ any way he wants


              getting spanked by Ruiz was not the writing on the wall for AJ... ducking Wilder was the writing on the wall for AJ







              ...

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              • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                Lol look at that second A ss Tyson has! That man has two backsides!! He does the beast with two backs solo! Someone gorilla glued his twin to him! You can call Tyson as A sshole all ya want, but you better indicate which one.


                Sef Safari, knew that Tyson was cheating on him when he noticed one of Fury's ********s was not as tight as the other.
                billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

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                • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  "Agree with me or I will harass you" brilliant strategy Sid... You seem insecure that America has a great tradition of heavyweights... Does not mean Britain does not, relax. And your theory about Wilder is preposterous... Seriously come on now. And now we are making excuses for AJ. AJ was lacking and he lost that fight... Agree it does not mean he is not talented...but admit it lol.
                  It seems you agree with that extremist. This isn't about agreeing with me. This is about a weirdo saying things that are deranged and irrational. I'm calling him to task.

                  I'm insecure about what? You do know when delusions get out of hand you should see someone about it? Because if that is what you're seeing in this situation, then you're exactly the same kind of person he is. There is nothing to make me insecure. Maybe though i'll claim Audley Harrison knocks out all Americans and is the more proven fighter. When people laugh at me and ask me to explain myself, i'll just deflect and accuse people of being "Insecure".

                  So AJ makes the same mistakes over and over again? That's where he's "Lacking"? What was it that he "Lacked"? For someone to be exposed in a certain area, it needs to be something they are incapable of changing. AJ changed it the very next fight. It was a mistake like any person could make in every walk of life. But i'm all ears to what you think it is.

                  If you ever see me being insecure about any of your Heavyweights and making things up, please feel free to specifically point it out to me and discuss it. It does have to be a reality based situation though. Whatever goes on in your head, is your problem. I'm not the person you should be talking to in that area.

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                  • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    who would be nervous of you? You’re the same loser who talks tough on a keyboard but then declines to follow up on any of his empty threats. You’re all the same clown who types 33 times in 1 thread like an angry little ****** troll because he’s trying to convince everyone that he’s tough, that the world fears Joshua and that the inferior boxing country you’re from actually can hold a candle to the US. Some of us have better shet to do with our Saturdays than spending all day dealing with an inbred muppet such as yourself. So go on and reply 52 more times because I know what I just wrote made your mangina sore. Pu$$y.
                    You're nervous by the fact you keep on deflecting and running away after you made comments. I ask you to justify them, but you can't. So the only coward here, is you. No one spends time writing a mass of comments they can't justify. Only delusional idiots do that. That is you. You're a weirdo who can't back yourself up. Anger is something you're projecting.

                    Who refused to follow through? You're projecting again. The only one who refuses to do this is you. Your delusional personality disorder does get you into some trouble doesn't it?

                    You're the person who doesn't stop talking about Mexicans regardless of the subject matter being about them or not. So to claim someone else is a clown for writing comments is more evidence for your insanity and delusion. The difference though, is i can justify my comments every time. You never can. I don't run away like you do all the time and live in a fantasy world. But hypocrisy on a pathological level is another one of your ills.

                    Who said the world fears AJ? No, just the ones who will do anything to not fight even though they've mouthed off and claimed he is ducking, even though the mass of evidence proves otherwise. To claim anything else is anger and insecurity. But why does he make you feel this way where you go extremist? Are you that envious and bitter?

                    Who are these Heavyweights from the US you speak of? Ones from many decades ago? Oh right. Tell me when you actually get a good one who isn't a coward and a deranged extremist in the here and now, then we can talk.

                    I hate to break it to you on how you like to spend your Saturdays, considering. But maybe the carer can tell you when your pills kick in.

                    Someone who is sore, is someone who can't back themselves up and makes themself look like a right idiot. But you know how bad your delusion gets in the way of reality.

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                    • Originally posted by Ropeydope View Post

                      Take a knee Sid knee. You’re a day late and a dollar short. Find someone else to act out your unwarranted superiority complex.
                      I don't go forward on the forum to see who corrects others or not. I just take the posts as they come. So chill.

                      I have no idea why you'd think it's a superiority complex when not liking to see innocent people slandered. We're built different then i suppose.

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