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  • #81
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    There are only two heavyweights that matter for Joshua to face and he’s faced neither while they’re both about to face each other for a third time. Him and Hearn were trying to pretend that they were the HW version of Mayweather and thought that their opponents would desperately take the much shorter end of the stick, which ended up backfiring. Meanwhile, he’s now fighting a blown up cruiserweight who may actually give him hell.
    You mean the biggest paydays in the division? Yeah, they took the short end of the stick. Haha. Never in history has fighters earned such a huge payday not being deserving of it. Maybe he should split it all 50/50 with every bum out there.

    And you can't fight those that duck you repeatedly.

    Wilder has never actually mattered. He's a fraud who got his name fighting garbage and struggling with them to go alongside slander and leeching off AJ's name to build himself up. How can you matter when you don't have a single good world class win? How many fights has he had? Who has ever mattered having that many fights without any world class wins to their name? He only fought Fury because he thought he was shot. But it all backfired so spectacularly.
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    • #82
      Originally posted by Bossman15 View Post

      I always ask in here who did Joshua fight to get those belts or better yet how many undefeated champions did he face or beat look both of their resumes are about on the same level and it seems to me the top heavyweights do not want to fight each other or the best in the division
      Martin and Parker who held the WBO and IBF titles were undefeated. Maybe you should fact check before trying to play someone down. You won't look so ****** then. But then again, how could you not?

      He got the WBA title by beating the number 1 in the division in Wlad also.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Tonyu View Post
        The fact is Fury, Joshua, Wilder would not be champions in any other era. Talk is cheap from Fury, against the first fight against McDermott he lost he got gifted that decision. The night he fought Klitschko, Klitschko was already in decline he didn't look himself. He wanted the rematch and I believe he would of been in better condition but Fury never honoured that in fact he had a mental breakdown went on a cocain binge funny that. In the first Wilder fight he was sparked out in the last round, ok it was a miraculous recovery but he still was out. I'm surprised the ref didn't stop that but this happens in boxing. Against Wallin I've seen lesser cuts been stopped so Fury has been lucky to a degree. Fury has never defended his titles once and the Wilder rematch may still not go through let's wait and see.

        I agree with everything his said about Joshua but it's a bit like the kettle calling the pot black. Both Tyson and Hughie where banned from using banned substances which apparently comes from wild boar meat (really Tyson)..
        AJ and Fury would be champions in any era. There's only 3 fighters i'd have as competition. Lewis beats both. Tyson and Vitali are very serious threats. I need to see more from both before i pick in those fights. Everyone else i pick AJ and Fury. There are a few ways they could defeat the competition. Most competition is very one dimensional. Holmes and Holyfield are outside bets. But i'm confident AJ and Fury can get over the line there.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk View Post

          Well put.
          That's the conundrum, do you see Fury's 2 wins against 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog. Or Ajs more consistency against average & old former generation fighter's? As better.
          All the top 3 have lost my faith now. Fury was my last horse in the race but 7 fight's in 7 year's
          You're spewing pure delusion in your posts.

          Not once did Eddie tell Wilder he had to beat Whyte in order to get the AJ fight. You're twisting this on purpose. Eddie said, after Wilder turned down the 15 Mill, that if he wanted more money, he could come over and fight Whyte, beat him, then he'd pay him more for the AJ fight.

          Wilder was never the number 1 in the world. Tell me how he did that? break it down. He's never been an actual top 5. It's propaganda and entitlement for those claims. It makes no sense.

          AJ is so good, he's got your emotions all f3cked up. An average fighter wouldn't have you this twisted and hateful with all this slander and poison.

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          • #85
            Honestly, neither Fury's nor Joshua's records reflect a "wow" factor in opponents. There's just not a lot of top big name HWs out there. Time for the few that are out there to fight each other. Fury's done well to beat Wilder, but hey, it's Wilder. Joshua avenged his only loss, but it's a loss against Andy Ruiz. Both fought a faded Wladimir Klitschko within two years of each other.
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            • #86
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              ...






              things that Tyson Fury owns:


              1) many cars

              2) many houses

              3) many fragile souls










              ...
              A fragile soul is someone who dedicates so much of their time on line to slander someone that causes them emotional pain. That would be you. But your arrogance has you trying to convince yourself that you are the smart one. You're not. You're a creepy emotional wreak.

              Fury is slandering AJ. Not trolling. It's done because he has an inferiority complex against him and fears him. You'll see why when Fury stops running away from the fight.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Jack_sh*t View Post

                Vladimir K... 2 years before AJ.
                It wasn't 2 years. It was 17 months. And it was a much better Wlad than the one who shut down against Fury.

                It could have been sooner after the Fury fight had Fury not messed him around as well.

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                • #88
                  I'm yet to hear a top-level fighter, other than Wilder, say that Fury is anything other than an excellent boxer. That opinion seems to be the preserve of internet folks.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    You mean the biggest paydays in the division? Yeah, they took the short end of the stick. Haha. Never in history has fighters earned such a huge payday not being deserving of it. Maybe he should split it all 50/50 with every bum out there.

                    And you can't fight those that duck you repeatedly.

                    Wilder has never actually mattered. He's a fraud who got his name fighting garbage and struggling with them to go alongside slander and leeching off AJ's name to build himself up. How can you matter when you don't have a single good world class win? How many fights has he had? Who has ever mattered having that many fights without any world class wins to their name? He only fought Fury because he thought he was shot. But it all backfired so spectacularly.
                    I’m sorry, who the fook are you? A is Theroux weirdo who shamelessly stalks me across various posts. What Aj win would you consider “world class”? This is a weak hw era and Joshua is included in that. Being beaten into submission by a fat blubbery butterball. All those muscles with no chin or heart. Shameful.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                      AJs resume is definitely better. Can't say Fury is the better fighter though until either his resume becomes better or he beats AJ. That's just fact.
                      I am not sure about that.

                      AJ had a hard time with Wladimir Klitschko. He won by stoppage, but he had a hard time with him. While yes, AJ was more aggressive than Fury, that was AJ's fault. I know Wlad vs Fury is an unwatchable fight, but Fury fought Wlad's fight and won. Wlad fought AJ's fight and damn near won. Then there's the Andy Ruiz debacle. I am the first to say AJ overlooked Ruiz and that's why he lost, it's obvious. He took him seriously in the rematch and won. So, the issue there was not that AJ couldn't beat Ruiz, it was that AJ did not take Ruiz seriously. Not every fighter that does not have a shiny 0 in the loss column is someone who can just be easily trashed. But it is clear that AJ still makes silly mistakes as a fighter, and he is still growing. Fury, in his 2 fights vs Wilder and his fight vs Wladimir Klitschko has shown he is the better fighter imo. We still do not know who would win between Wilder and AJ.

                      Fury is the Ring champion at HW, he is also the HW champion in the TBRB rankings, as well as the Lineal champion at HW (for defeating W. Klitshcko). Tyson Fury is better than Anthony Joshua. Not only did he beat the Ring/Lineal champion there (W. Klitshcko), the #1 (Fury) fought the #2 guy (Wilder) and KO'ed him. Joshua was KO'ed by the then #6 HW.

                      Joshua better not take Usyk lightly. Sure, his detractors will belittle the win and make believe they were not giving Usyk a chance but it will be even worse if he loses. He needs to go in there next Saturday and take Usyk as seriously as he would take Fury or Wilder. He can't go in there like he did vs Wlad or Ruiz I, trying to bully and KO them. He needs to be smart and let the KO happen, not force it.

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