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  • El_Mero
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    #61
    Originally posted by Fighter78

    I agree.....Tank literally would kill Lyin Garcia...and Devin Haney would win nearly EVERY SINGLE ROUND against the fake Mexican.
    You lost it with the bolded part. Haney cant punch for sh.it. i got Ryan by KO on Devin Chinney

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    • DFM
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      #62
      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
      Tank beats Ryan Garcia easily.
      If Tank beats Ryan Garcia easily why doesn't he fight him? Mayweather just said Gervonta will only fight PBC fighters.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        When? When has he not? I am a bit of a Tank fan, and I think Mayweather is doing that kid wrong, but I have to keep it real. Keep it 100. Tank has moved up and fought interim champions. Loma almost cleared out a division, a division that is three weight classes above where he started. He did that below too. He fought a Gary Russel Jr., who is a phenomenal boxer. He fought Linares when Linares was still in his prime, a boxer who Emmanuel Steward said was one of the best, if not the best, boxers he's ever seen (he really said that). If you look at Linares matches that he lost, aside from Loma and Cano, he was never really knocked out or anything. He lost on either BS or because he cuts easily. He had the short end of the stick in some of those losses. Linares, IMO, is Haney's best win. And Haney almost got KTFO fighting Linares.

        Pedraza is a good boxer too. Pedraza was beating Tank but decided to fight Tank's fight and was TKO'd. But if you look at the fight, Floyd was flipping out for most of it because Tank was letting Pedraza get the better of him.

        Campbell? Well, he's not the most amazing boxer. No offense to Garcia, but Campbell seems to fall short when it matters. And Campbell almost knocked Garcia TFO. Does that mean that Campbell is not that bad or that Garica is not all that good? Maybe somewhere in between. Maybe time will tell.

        I want to put Rigo in there, but man, Rigo has let me down too much. I had Rigo in my top 5 favorite boxers ... but man, I just don't know. (And before you say he was too small, Rigo was fighting at 126 before. He'd move up and down.) Rigo can be amazing one night and look like garbage the next. It's hard to say.

        Whatever the case, Loma fights world champions unless he's fighting a mandatory. That's more than what Tank has done, for sure. You really can't argue that. (Yeah Tank fought an interim champ at 140, but if I remember right, Tank was losing that fight too, before he got the TKO, and Floyd told him so in the corner. Floyd was flipping out again.)
        I only asked if he fought the best guy in the division in his first fight in the division.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Rodtang

          Davis resume however is not as good as Ellerbe claims. And he's surely past the building up stage. I don't even see Garcia as a big fight for Davis. Popular maybe, but in boxing terms not big. Barrios was only decent because there was a question in size disparity. Take that out of the equation and Barrios wasn't special. And neither is Garcia, and I believe Barrios was the perfect warm up for that. Davis is such a talent. He needs those special fights now.
          Maybe not. But Tank’s resume isn’t judged by who he fought, but by who promotes and manages him.

          Like the Barrios fight. Anyone else just gets credit for moving up and fighting an undefeated guy. Tank gets criticism because people hate who he works with and just want him to lose.

          He definitely should fight the top guys. Maybe Floyd and the matchmakers realize he isn’t ready and have decided to build his brand until they feel he is.

          Unless you’re someone that just hates Floyd and Haymon, I can’t see why anyone would take issue with that strategy.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-16-2021, 01:19 PM.

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            I only asked if he fought the best guy in the division in his first fight in the division.
            Jorge Linares. He was the best in the division at that time.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy

              Jorge Linares. He was the best in the division at that time.
              Ok but I think many would disagre that linares was the best at that time.

              I will agree he was. That Doesn’t mean he did it every time. That was my only point.

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              • Cypocryphy
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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Ok but I think many would disagre that linares was the best at that time.

                I will agree he was. That Doesn’t mean he did it every time. That was my only point.
                Okay. Yeah. I see what you are saying. For sure.

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                  #68
                  Keeping it "in-house" sucks for boxing fans.

                  Whether it's Arum doing it or Floyd Mayweather.

                  We want to see the best fighting the best.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Rodtang

                    Garcia is basic. Like Barrios is basic. That's why Davis was put in with Barrios. Perfect warm up for a Garcia fight, in which he's now shown the size won't be an issue. Garcia is right that Davis will only do in-house, and we didn't need Floyd to tell us that, it's been so obvious anyway. But if there's one fight that they break that rule for its Garcia. Davis knocks Garcia out and they know it. Oscar knows it too after seing him dropped by Campbell, so unless Garcia shows massive improvement, he's waiting it out until the danger reaches 140.
                    The longer Ryan Garcia trains with Canelo and Reynoso the more likely he KTFO Tank.

                    Ryan is twice as fast as Tank and definitely has the power to hurt him

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp

                      The longer Ryan Garcia trains with Canelo and Reynoso the more likely he KTFO Tank.

                      Ryan is twice as fast as Tank and definitely has the power to hurt him
                      Is that because with Reynoso he will eat the same tainted meat as Canelo and drink the same herbal tea as Valdez?

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