Why do some fans want to see young boxers step up so quick?

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  • -Kev-
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    #61
    If I want to be labeled as smart/knowledgable about astrophysics, I need to make a scientific discovery/theory equivalent to Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity or Stephen Hawking’s “Hawking radiation”. At the very least, Newton’s law of universal gravity. Or else I should not even dare step foot into the field of astrophysics.

    Do not proclaim to know anything about the field or having a good level of knowledge about it without even coming close to being as smart as Albert Einstein.

    Same for these lame boxers. Do not take up a career in boxing if you know you can’t be elite by 19 years old.

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    • Hustle
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      #62
      Originally posted by -Kev-

      So you just named unique ATG’s.

      Their careers were special because of that.

      Real “fans”. Exactly, fans. None of you are fighters. A lot of you would probably gassed before 3 rounds.

      This generation, my ass. Developing and gradually moving fighters slowly was done in any generation of modern boxing.

      no great fighter waited til 30 to fight somebody elite. The current p4p fighter jumped into the smoke at 22.

      Errol spence went over seas at 27.

      now dudes passing up mandatories and jumping divisons while avoiding the top dogs and dudes like you applaud it.

      Every atg fought 50/50 fights way before 30.

      This generation is fighting mismatch after mismatch and dudes like you telling us its ok. Gtfoh and enjoy tank vs rolly

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      • -Kev-
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        #63
        Originally posted by Hustle


        no great fighter waited til 30 to fight somebody elite. The current p4p fighter jumped into the smoke at 22.

        Errol spence went over seas at 27.

        now dudes passing up mandatories and jumping divisons while avoiding the top dogs and dudes like you applaud it.

        Every atg fought 50/50 fights way before 30.

        This generation is fighting mismatch after mismatch and dudes like you telling us its ok. Gtfoh and enjoy tank vs rolly
        1. Nobody said anything about 30 years old. We are talking about young fighters who need to step up gradually but can’t due to fans.

        2. Great boxers of the past were not pressured by fans/media when they were fighting bum of the month or debuting fighters. That’s why boxers of the past had 100 fights in their careers. There is a development process to everything and it is amusing to see stubborn boxing fans saying otherwise.

        3. Obligatory tough guy comment: “This generation is fighting mismatch after mismatch and dudes like you telling us its ok. Gtfoh and enjoy tank vs rolly”

        ^Lol. Listen, posts like yours just goes to show how clueless fans are about boxing history.

        Nobody said anything about mismatches being okay. The discussion is about a lack of a development phase for young boxers.

        Also, “this generation”. No, please stop pretending like you know what was going on in all boxing generations. If you did know, you would know that ATG’s of the past were fighting mismatches. A ton. More than boxers do now. I am talking 80 fights worth of mismatches. That is the only way to get 100 wins. Mismatches. So don’t come in here pretending like mismatches is a thing in this generation. Because you clearly look like you are talking out of your a$$.

        “now dudes passing up mandatories and jumping divisons while avoiding the top dogs and dudes like you applaud it”

        ^Do you have a mental disability? It appears that you can’t read. You are unable to comprehend my post. I think it’s in plain English. If English is the only language you know, I expect you to be way better than this at understanding.

        I am just going to chalk up your post to mental re tar dation. You are clearly arguing about something that has nothing to do with the thread topic.

        Gtfoh and read a book since you are illiterate.

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        • maguirre
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          #64
          This is delusional. It only exists in your imagination.

          Show me a time when fans get to pick who these fighters fight. You know damn well people behind these "young prospects" never listen to fans.

          Or how about fighters at the same age bracket compete with each other? Is that okay with you?

          Lopez, Davis, Haney, Garcia, Loma. Aren't you mad they're not fighting each other?


          Point is, fans have ZERO say on who these "prospects" fight. That's why this is a POINTLESS thread.
          Last edited by maguirre; 09-14-2021, 11:56 AM.

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          • -Kev-
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            #65
            Originally posted by maguirre
            This is delusional. It only exists in your imagination.

            Show me a time when fans get to pick who these fighters fight. You know damn well people behind these "young prospects" never listen to fans.

            Or how about fighters at the same age bracket compete with each other? Is that okay with you?

            Lopez, Davis, Haney, Garcia, Loma. Aren't you mad they're not fighting each other?


            Point is, fans have ZERO say on who these "prospects" fight. That's why this is a POINTLESS thread.
            That is absurd.

            Of course fans have a say.

            Have you heard about the internet? Social media? Do you think networks, promoters, and fighters don’t have access to the internet?

            “Lopez, Davis, Haney, Garcia, Loma. Aren't you mad they're not fighting each other?”

            I am going to say this as clear as possible: Fighters are no longer having an extensive development phase.

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            • BustedKnuckles
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              #66
              Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
              Kev speaking facts.

              Being moved too quickly can be dangerous.

              Put a prospect in with an experienced top level guy could ruin a career. Physically and mentally.


              Yeah, what was the name of the young latino that Trinidad swelled up is face like a pumpkin? Name slipped my mind at the moment.

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              • BustedKnuckles
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                #67
                Originally posted by Hustle


                no great fighter waited til 30 to fight somebody elite. The current p4p fighter jumped into the smoke at 22.

                Errol spence went over seas at 27.

                now dudes passing up mandatories and jumping divisons while avoiding the top dogs and dudes like you applaud it.

                Every atg fought 50/50 fights way before 30.

                This generation is fighting mismatch after mismatch and dudes like you telling us its ok. Gtfoh and enjoy tank vs rolly
                How is anybody fighting Rolly? Isn't he the taxi driver that 3G took out in what we hoped was a lame stay busy fight, and instead turned into 3G's new MO?

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                • wlad1111
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                  #68
                  I personally don't want fighters to step up quick but at the same time fighting tomato cans one after the other is not gonna get you much valuable experience. If a fighter keeps disposing of his opposition with little to no effort he should be stepping up.

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                  • Tails
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                    #69
                    Because most have never boxed before competitively.

                    If they did they would understand that there truly are levels and just because a prospect is really good does not mean he is ready for true elite talent. Experience matters and very few boxers in there early 20's have that level of experience.They might be able to pick off some of the weaker champions but the upper echelon is a whole different level of competition. That is why I give some of the younger fighters a pass because they recognize they need more experience. Now if they start talking mad ish then yeah all is fair and throw them in with what they are asking for.

                    As of recent the only boxer in recent memory that stepped up quick to the elite championship level has been Teofimo Lopez. What he accomplished is very impressive no matter how you spin it.

                    David Benavidez is another one that has stepped up to championship level but of course those two instances have derailed that momentum he had. Possibly better for him in the end though to gain more experience and discipline.

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                    • El_Mero
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      Every young prospect think he’s the best

                      so prove it
                      ^^^^^^^
                      This and the fact that NOT enough big fights are happening, so might as well see these young guns step up, show and prove!

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