Why do some fans want to see young boxers step up so quick?

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  • BendOver
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    #31
    Originally posted by BodyBagz

    True. A loss can sometimes be the best thing to happen to a fighter. Thing is, how many losses is too many ? And do they include KO losses ?
    Ko losses are underrated. If you don't see the punch, it will not take too much power to put you down. One punch, Armstrong was ko in his very first professional fight, and look at his career. I was happy when Robeisy Ramirez loss his first fight. It make him focus.

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    • Lomadeaux
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      #32
      Because of the Gervontae Davis' of the world. That's why.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        They do get pushed fast and thrown in to the lions while still green and then you get some that seem to want to drag their feet and keeping being labelled a youngster or a prospect even though they getting in to their late 20's or after we'll over 30 Pro fights.

        But alot of time these youngsters come with alot of mouth about the top fighters in their division. You wana smack talk the top guys ppl are guna want you to back it up.
        All their doing is trying to build their brand, gain exposure and sell seats.

        It defies logic Why that would held against a young fighter. What exactly is wrong with this?

        I understand your point that people want to see loudmouths lose. But it’s clear on NSB posters choose who they want to see “ back it up”, based on who promotes the fighter.

        Guys like Teo and Berlanga aren’t asked to rush and criticized for their resumes as guys like a Tank. Some guys get to just grow while a guy like Rolly is being held to an absurd standard.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-08-2021, 03:32 PM.

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        • FinlandsFinest
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          #34
          Because they should. Do you really expect the fans to be happy with someone fighting no one for a decade, then having their big cashout fight at 30? Especially cause 30 is already right on the edge of declining in the smaller weight divisions

          The current model is: Fight 20 bums then do a step up fight.

          Lomachenko did it right.
          Last edited by FinlandsFinest; 09-08-2021, 05:13 PM.

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          • Hustle
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            #35
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

            I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

            Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

            For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

            Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

            A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

            It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.

            because real fans know the history of the greats.

            Jones jr vs toney
            de la hoya vs trinidad
            Morales vs barrera
            Mayweather vs corrales

            All of these happened by age 26.


            This generation think you supposed to wait until age 35 to step up

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            • buddyr
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              #36
              define "quick"

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              • MONGOOSE66
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                #37
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

                I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

                Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

                For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

                Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

                A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

                It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.
                When someone talks a lot of sheeit. It makes u want to see them fight someone worthy not a “learning experience”. We use to have venues to watch these up and comers on tv for FREE. They actually fought 4 times a year or more. Now your VERY LUCKY to see them fight twice a year AND U HAVE TO PAY to see them fight a nobody. That ain’t right. These kids are babied too much, ESPECIALLY for having big mouths.

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                • chaosisme
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                  #38
                  If you're taking up a television spot, you should be in a tough and meaningful fight. Simple as that. If you want to fight a bunch of cans on your way up, do it on the non-televised portion of the undercard.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by HOF Hater

                    You tried being slick and I checked your ass....now you backpedal...shit has me ctfu
                    How did you check me? You're still talking nonsense.

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                    • maguirre
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                      #40
                      Is there any other sport where the young players are protected like babies?

                      In tennis right at this very moment 2 teenagers are competing in the women's finals, US Open.

                      https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/new...aducanu-picks/

                      UK vs Canada.

                      It's amazing!
                      Last edited by maguirre; 09-11-2021, 03:26 PM.

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