Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Tests Positive For VADA Banned Substance, Fight With Conceicao In Question

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  • PinkGod
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    #81
    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

    ”How many times”

    Clenbuterol now has a threshold 8X times higher (allowed) than what Canelo had. Vargas had twice the amount of Canelo and was Exonerated by VADA. There were no hair samples given back then as well.

    stat salty!
    They changed the threshold because their cash cow got caught cheating, at the time the amount found in his body was above whatever threshold there was aka CHEATING! AlvaRoid is a cheater & you know it. You continue to move the goalpost for AlvaRoid but at the end of the day, a cheater is a cheater.

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    • GBP4LIFE
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      #82
      We knew he looked way different in that Berchelt fight.. cost me big parlay win money.

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      • AKAcronym
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        #83
        Originally posted by jonnyc420

        Only to the people who yearn for any opportunity to dump on Canelo. All the best have the clowns who dont like them so they have those pitchforks ready at the slightest. They need anything they can get to cling to. Quite sad but that be the internet for you.
        When did I say anything about Canelo? I said it casts more su****ion on that whole camp.

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        • Mr Giggles
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          #84
          Canelo is definitely on something too, no doubt in my mind, he’s suddenly just breaking people’s faces gtfo here. That whole camp FISHY!

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          • Luilun
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            #85
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Lol a diuretic.

            Who cares?
            Agreed like this really makes a monster it just makes you pee more

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #86
              Originally posted by Luilun

              Agreed like this really makes a monster it just makes you pee more
              It wasn't a diuretic.

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              • Nightfall
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                #87
                Tainted meat oops I meant tea.

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                • BustedKnuckles
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                  Depending on what "diuretic" it is, it can be as simple as taking supplements (every fighter does it). Fighters are idiots (I know I worked with quite a few of them) they take any supplements anyone who they deem knowledgeable about the subject tells them is good and the only question they ask is "nothing illegal in here, it wont make me fail a drug test" and the person who recommends it never says "depends" but always says "No, its safe" when that answer is 100% wrong, the answer is "DEPENDS"...
                  Blah blah blah

                  I mean, I appreciate the insight. And I'll take it for what it's worth. Maybe there's something to that. But I'm not into the "convince me that the obvious thing isn't actually correct" thing.

                  Boxers juice, period. Maybe not all. I don't know how many, but a bunch. Believe that.

                  Whether it's something akin to Deca to harden them but not necessarily put on weight, or something like Winnie that helps them shed the pounds. Even if it's a diuretic, it's unfair. Why? Because it gives them an unnatural edge advantage over the competition. Somebody who comes in with hard-trained muscle hardness is doing an uphill battle against somebody who comes in with juiced-up muscle hardness.

                  I don't care if they make them legal. Either way, it ought to be a level playing field. Pac. Canelo, Whomever else. Great boxers, but you know there's juice involved. if you get caught, you get caught. I don't need to defend them.

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                  • Combat Talk Radio
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by 4truth

                    Nope.

                    If I start believing this is some sort of masking agent, maybe.
                    Welp, now you heard it wasn't a diuretic and you heard that Victor Conte used it.

                    What say ye?

                    People said they refused to put Canelo on P4P lists over a failed test, so let's be consistent - Oscar Valdez should be blocked from lists too.

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                    • edpboxing
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                      #90
                      Whole camp is juicing. No if, ands, or buts about it. That’s why Canelo moved off the September date & all of a sudden is ready for testing.

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