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  • komandante
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    #111
    Originally posted by Boxfan83

    Dont forget me, i cheated on your mom.
    So you've been cheating on dead person, the curse of the weeping will hunt you.

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    • Marktko1020
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      #112
      That’s why Floyd pays USADA to drug test so they can turn a blind eye on his banned IV use that granted him a the****utic exemption to use 750 ml of **ahem** saline and vitamins before his fight with Pacquiao. Because we all know Floyd has trouble making weight . Floyd never dared to test under VADA and now we know why he chose to pay USADA to do the testing. Now what I am understanding is that Valdez used a banned diuretic for weight loss but the su****ion is that the diuretic can be used to flush your system by pissing out any other possible banned substances including recreational drugs so you will give a clean urine sample. So Valdez is claiming he unknowingly took a banned substance to aid in making weight and not to hide any juice. Floyd use of the extremely excessive amount of IV for **ahem** rehydration purposes raised the same red flag because the excessive amount of whatever was Floyd’s IV could be used to dilute his urine, thus, masking or flushing out any banned substances. Of course now we know why Floyd strictly used and PAID for USADA to drug test. I believe Valdez tested under VADA for his fight with Berchelt and we assume both fighters were clean for that fight. https://********/UBDA7CvUXC8

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      • Andre Agoncillo
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        #113
        Phentermine is like Methamphetamine (yeah the drug from Breaking bad), a stimulant that increases aggressiveness, decreases appetite, decreases pain and promote water weight loss. Of course the body tends to crash after the effects and has a bad effect on our heart, liver and kidneys as well. I agree that he may have used this because he is a weight bully with a weak chin. This is the beginning of the end for Valdez. I pity the boxers he faced before like Berchelt and Servania.

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        • PBR Streetgang
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          #114
          I'm not a chemist, so I don't really know what to think on this. It's on VADA's banned list but not on WADA's list for "in competition"...and I don't know what is considered "in competition" (fight night?)...

          Sounds like the ultimate arbiter is the Yaqui Indian Reserve commission; I have a feeling the fight will go on.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #115
            Originally posted by Andre Agoncillo
            Phentermine is like Methamphetamine (yeah the drug from Breaking bad), a stimulant that increases aggressiveness, decreases appetite, decreases pain and promote water weight loss. Of course the body tends to crash after the effects and has a bad effect on our heart, liver and kidneys as well. I agree that he may have used this because he is a weight bully with a weak chin. This is the beginning of the end for Valdez. I pity the boxers he faced before like Berchelt and Servania.
            Lol. A weight bullying yet Berchelt oversized him. Fought an oversized Quigg yet still fought him. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Lying goes a long way

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #116
              Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
              I'm not a chemist, so I don't really know what to think on this. It's on VADA's banned list but not on WADA's list for "in competition"...and I don't know what is considered "in competition" (fight night?)...

              Sounds like the ultimate arbiter is the Yaqui Indian Reserve commission; I have a feeling the fight will go on.
              There are various “PEDS” in all sport. WADA doesn’t contextualize weight, trying to make the scale, because they cover all sports up to the Olympics. Boxing is a unique procedure for boxers always calibrating to compete at a particular class. This is why WADA wouldn’t focus on let’s say a sprinter fluctuating in weight.

              Fans of the sport don’t know how to compare “cheats” like Jean Pascal or Big Baby types of substances verses others. The UFC is the most rampant because those types of athletes originate particularly from strength training gyms, hence the art of grappling, wrestling, BJJ. Those types of sports really drain stamina during competition so they juice up with the knowledge from old school weightlifting as well as recovery. A lot of steroid use is used for FAST recovery. That itself is a danger for the athlete, and commissions acknowledging such states would be held accountable if an athlete is severely injured because of it. That’s why there’s legal formalities and drug testing. PED use is a complicated matter.

              It’s even complicated when athletes don’t do it all or missed collection samples…

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                #117
                Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                There are various “PEDS” in all sport. WADA doesn’t contextualize weight, trying to make the scale, because they cover all sports up to the Olympics. Boxing is a unique procedure for boxers always calibrating to compete at a particular class. This is why WADA wouldn’t focus on let’s say a sprinter fluctuating in weight.

                Fans of the sport don’t know how to compare “cheats” like Jean Pascal or Big Baby types of substances verses others. The UFC is the most rampant because those types of athletes originate particularly from strength training gyms, hence the art of grappling, wrestling, BJJ. Those types of sports really drain stamina during competition so they juice up with the knowledge from old school weightlifting as well as recovery. A lot of steroid use is used for FAST recovery. That itself is a danger for the athlete, and commissions acknowledging such states would be held accountable if an athlete is severely injured because of it. That’s why there’s legal formalities and drug testing. PED use is a complicated matter.

                It’s even complicated when athletes don’t do it all or missed collection samples…
                Here's the issue. Conte talked about it.

                When you pop out of competition, you're creating smoke and mirrors for in competition.

                So for example, you know you've been cycling nandrolone, which is in competition, because you're not in 24/7 testing for in competition. You need to cycle off and clean, so you take diuretics by a certain final date, which could be used to flush.

                That's why it's sketchy.

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                • Toyman
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                  #118
                  Stuff like this is why floyd went out of his way to pay for his own personal testing agency.

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                  • BZBEE
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                    #119
                    I know personally of some boxers/ex boxers who have used this exact drug. It's mostly used to suppress appetite and the urge to eat. It comes with an energy boost. Similar too BUT not as strong as what Billi Jo Saunders keeps on getting caught with.


                    What is phentermine?


                    Phentermine is similar to an amphetamine. It stimulates the central nervous system (nerves and brain), which increases your heart rate and blood pressure and decreases your appetite.

                    Phentermine is used together with diet and exercise to treat obesity, especially in people with risk factors such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or diabetes.

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                    • nino brown21
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by AKAcronym
                      Casts even more su****ion on that whole camp.
                      Ya canelo now Oscar next thing you know Andy is gonna pop dirty

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