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  • BangEM
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    #11
    Originally posted by Tatabanya
    Wait, didn't "AJ" stand for "Am Juiced"?

    Seriously, I'm sure PEDs entered the scene way before the 90s. And I'm equally sure they're still here, only better masked.
    I'm mostly talking about roids and HGH. And the highest point of use in sports were the 80s and 90s.

    But I'd say in boxing, it reached the high point in the 90s.

    Yes, most boxers probably use new gears today but they're not using roids and HGH. Only Canelo looks su****ious due to how big his head is and it only got bigger the past few years.

    If you're a gym rat, it's easy to tell. Just look at their heads, shoulders and chest.

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      #12
      Most of their physiques are easily attainable with regular strength training and a good diet.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BangEM

        I'm mostly talking about roids and HGH. And the highest point of use in sports were the 80s and 90s.

        But I'd say in boxing, it reached the high point in the 90s.

        Yes, most boxers probably use new gears today but they're not using roids and HGH. Only Canelo looks su****ious due to how big his head is and it only got bigger the past few years.

        If you're a gym rat, it's easy to tell. Just look at their heads, shoulders and chest.
        We have come to a point in sports where, to prevail at top level, one can't just do it clean. Speaking of gym, also to consider is the increased gym technology used by many fighters BESIDES the dirty stuff. That perhaps explains the enhanced muscular definition you correctly mention.

        On the other hand, I remember people like Mike "Hercules" Weaver and wonder....

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          #14
          Originally posted by BangEM

          No, when you look at the body definition - AJ looks natural. Look at the traps, shoulders, chest and head size.

          Look at AJ's head for example - it's not as big as those from the 90s. Those guys look like Mr. Olympia.

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          Anthony Joshua post Andy Ruiz is suffering from 'His obsession with being super light'.

          All other sports accept boxing, and more specifically heavyweight boxing 'All of the athletes are still in condition' post the 1990. And this is because the caliber of athletes in boxing during the 90's was greater than what we see today 'That is the only sensible conclusion I can come to'.

          Track and Field athletics and sprinting has always had different body types dominating. So by just posting one picture of Usain Bolt, proves nothing. Simultaneously during the 80's and 90's you have varying body types having success in sprinting, from the Carl Lewis's to Linford Christie's, right the way down to Andre Cason's to the Maurice Greene's 'You had tall slender sprinters, you had very bulky sprinters, and then you had sprinters who where kind in-between' you have proved nothing with your picture of Usain Bolt.

          In all other sports post 1990, whether that be Track and Field athletics, Basketball, Soccer, Rugby, Swimming, Tennis 'All of the athletes at elite level are still in condition' It is only Heavyweight boxing that seems to struggle in the entire world of sport.

          Let me repeat that again for anyone who wants to read
          'Out of all the sports in the world, since the end of the 1990's. It is only boxing and more specifically heavyweight boxing, where all the athletes suddenly started to appear completely out of condition 'Only Heavyweight boxing'. It got so bad, that whenever a fighter would appear in condition, they would automatically be accused of performance enhancing drugs. And this is the culture and attitude that has permeated boxing culture. This culture and attitude exist in no other sport'.

          Why is it only Heavyweight boxing, that has suffered ****Em? I have just told you why at the top of my post. These fighters around these days may be big in terms of mass, but they are not as talented or they have the dedication like the heavyweights of the 90's. Right now as we speak, it is only really Anthony Joshua who approaches the sports with a Olympic level discipline, and before that you had obviously Wladimir Kiltschko and David Haye with that same kind of work ethic.

          People may think? Well I am generalizing. I am just going by what I have experience from watching the sport. When you have a Heavyweight Champion called Tyson Fury, ****ing on about making big sacrifices like 'Not drinking diet cokes'. When you have a athlete that feels the needs to announce this to the world, as if it is something monumental that nobody as ever done before 'There is definite issue with the caliber of athletes in the sport'.

          No idea why I replied to the thread, because you clearly have agenda that you want to push.

          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-26-2021, 08:18 AM.

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            #15
            The only ones that really stand out are Ibeabuchi and Holyfield. Joshua looks more muscular than the others.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Most of their physiques are easily attainable with regular strength training and a good diet.
              Good diet and training also increase your head size? And Mr. Olympia shoulders on Ibeabuchi?

              I doubt you train tbh.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                The only ones that really stand out are Ibeabuchi and Holyfield. Joshua looks more muscular than the others.
                He doesn't look more muscular - his shoulders aren't as broad as any of them, ditto his chest.

                AJ just has bigger arms and less body fat. AJ's arms and legs are very big hence you can tell he's natural since those are the two you train the most.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BangEM

                  He doesn't look more muscular - his shoulders aren't as broad as any of them, ditto his chest.

                  AJ just has bigger arms and less body fat. AJ's arms and legs are very big hence you can tell he's natural since those are the two you train the most.
                  Joshua was huge before he lost to Ruiz. A lot more muscular than Lewis, Tyson etc.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                    Anthony Joshua post Andy Ruiz is suffering from 'His obsession with being super light'.

                    All other sports accept boxing, and more specifically heavyweight boxing 'All of the athletes are still in condition' post the 1990. And this is because the caliber of athletes in boxing during the 90's was greater than what we see today 'That is the only sensible conclusion I can come to'.

                    Track and Field athletics and sprinting has always had different body types dominating. So by just posting one picture of Usain Bolt, proves nothing. Simultaneously during the 80's and 90's you have varying body types having success in sprinting, from the Carl Lewis's to Linford Christie's, right the way down to Andre Cason's to the Maurice Greene's 'You had tall slender sprinters, you had very bulky sprinters, and then you had sprinters who where kind in-between' you have proved nothing with your picture of Usain Bolt.

                    In all other sports post 1990, whether that be Track and Field athletics, Basketball, Soccer, Rugby, Swimming, Tennis 'All of the athletes at elite level are still in condition' It is only Heavyweight boxing that seems to struggle in the entire world of sport.

                    Let me repeat that again for anyone who wants to read
                    'Out of all the sports in the world, since the end of the 1990's. It is only boxing and more specifically heavyweight boxing, where all the athletes suddenly started to appear completely out of condition 'Only Heavyweight boxing'. It got so bad, that whenever a fighter would appear in condition, they would automatically be accused of performance enhancing drugs. And this is the culture and attitude that has permeated boxing culture. This culture and attitude exist in no other sport'.

                    Why is it only Heavyweight boxing, that has suffered ****Em? I have just told you why at the top of my post. These fighters around these days may be big in terms of mass, but they are not as talented or they have the dedication like the heavyweights of the 90's. Right now as we speak, it is only really Anthony Joshua who approaches the sports with a Olympic level discipline, and before that you had obviously Wladimir Kiltschko and David Haye with that same kind of work ethic.

                    People may think? Well I am generalizing. I am just going by what I have experience from watching the sport. When you have a Heavyweight Champion called Tyson Fury, ****ing on about making big sacrifices like 'Not drinking diet cokes'. When you have a athlete that feels the needs to announce this to the world, as if it is something monumental that nobody as ever done before 'There is definite issue with the caliber of athletes in the sport'.
                    Carl Lewis was very muscular when he was setting those WRs. So we know what diet he was on.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BangEM

                      Good diet and training also increase your head size? And Mr. Olympia shoulders on Ibeabuchi?

                      I doubt you train tbh.
                      Joshua's head size got bigger when he got more muscular too. That's what happens when you add weight. Just stop it. This topic is ****** as ****, Joshua looks more roided than most of the 90s HW's but is the most tested fighter in the sport.

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