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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #51
    Originally posted by BangEM

    Are they more muscular than the heavies of the 90s? Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Mercer, Tua, Ibeabuchi, Lennox Lewis, Grant, Ruddock - just to name a few - are more muscular than today’s heavies. That was the steroids era when juicing was at an all time high in all sports, yet you think today’s heavies are more muscular. Did you even watch boxers from the 90s?

    Some of you just create false narratives to defend a non-existent point.

    And Fury hasn’t fought anyone apart from Wlad and Wilder. So how can you he’s successful?
    Nope, they where just better athletes and probably more dedicated.

    You cannot use this excuse that boxers in the 90's where doping 'So that was why they were in condition'.

    So in all other sports, the athletes still turn up in condition 'Accept for heavyweight boxing since the end of the 90's'.

    In all other sports, whether it be basketball, Soccer, Track and Field Athletics, Swimming, Tennis, Rugby all of the athletes at elite level are still in condition.

    But in boxing and more specifically heavyweight boxing, ONLY these athletes started to become out of condition 'Soon as the 90's ended'.

    They are out of condition, because they are lesser fighters and athletes. That is the only most sensible conclusion after investigation, that I can come to etc

    Tyson Fury was ****ing on about sacrificing not drinking diet cokes, as if this was some sort of monumental sacrifice 'Before his second fight with Deontay Wilder'.


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    • sicko
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      #52
      Stacked Compared to the ERA before them in which Vitali and Wlad made everybody their B!TCHES

      Talent Wise overall...AVERAGE AF overhyped by Fanboys of AJ, Fury and Wilder who overhype this ERA because they want to believe that these guys are ATG or something but they're not, not even close. Well I guess AJ is already this All Time Great "BRITISH" Heavyweight which is really not saying much

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      • Stuart Chandler
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        #53
        Originally posted by sicko
        Stacked Compared to the ERA before them in which Vitali and Wlad made everybody their B!TCHES

        Talent Wise overall...AVERAGE AF overhyped by Fanboys of AJ, Fury and Wilder who overhype this ERA because they want to believe that these guys are ATG or something but they're not, not even close. Well I guess AJ is already this All Time Great "BRITISH" Heavyweight which is really not saying much
        Fury and Joshua are better than the Klitschko brothers .

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        • Earl-Hickey
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          #54
          Originally posted by Stuart Chandler

          Fury and Joshua are better than the Klitschko brothers .
          Both already rate higher than Vitali, they beat their "lennox" which was a past prime Wlad.

          Wlad still shades them due to consistency but not by a while lot.

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          • iamboxing
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            #55
            Originally posted by BangEM

            Are they more muscular than the heavies of the 90s? Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Mercer, Tua, Ibeabuchi, Lennox Lewis, Grant, Ruddock - just to name a few - are more muscular than today’s heavies. That was the steroids era when juicing was at an all time high in all sports, yet you think today’s heavies are more muscular. Did you even watch boxers from the 90s?

            Some of you just create false narratives to defend a non-existent point.

            And Fury hasn’t fought anyone apart from Wlad and Wilder. So how can you he’s successful?
            Bruno was a relic of the 80s and was in his latter part of his career in the 90s.

            Of course Tyson and 90s boxers were muscle-bound, but they weren't stiff.

            If you think Tyson and Lennox were stiff, you need to go back and watch their fights. Tyson's head movements and footwork was sublime in his prime, and Lennox was athletic and agile. And even the big lumbering ones like Bowe had an awesome jab. Name me a HW today that has a jab like the old greats like Holmes and Ali? They don't even have a jab that's better than 45 year old Foreman.

            Put any of today's HWS in a delorean and send them back to the 80s or 90s, and they gets their heads jabbed to the death. Except the Gypsy King.

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              #56
              Originally posted by iamboxing

              Bruno was a relic of the 80s and was in his latter part of his career in the 90s.

              Of course Tyson and 90s boxers were muscle-bound, but they weren't stiff.

              If you think Tyson and Lennox were stiff, you need to go back and watch their fights. Tyson's head movements and footwork was sublime in his prime, and Lennox was athletic and agile. And even the big lumbering ones like Bowe had an awesome jab. Name me a HW today that has a jab like the old greats like Holmes and Ali? They don't even have a jab that's better than 45 year old Foreman.

              Put any of today's HWS in a delorean and send them back to the 80s or 90s, and they gets their heads jabbed to the death. Except the Gypsy King.
              Pure fantasy, I'm pretty sure most of today's top 10 would demolish the pub dweller contenders of the 80s.

              Can you imagine one of those coal miners, who were like 6'0" 195lbs, worked 60 hours a week, and had a staple diet of Pie and gravy getting in the ring with AJ? Don't make me laugh.

              I don't think the crack addicts in the 90s would fare any better.

              Now put in the elite guys of that era who were on PED's and you make it a little closer.

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                #57
                I just watched this and yeah I'm totally convinced today's top heavyweights just wouldn't last in the 80s.



                That guy is a one round, no a ONE MINUTE job for Anthony Joshua, and he was a world title challenger who went the distance with Larry Holmes who apparently AJ and others just couldn't hope to live with.

                And I can post fights like this from the 80s and 90s ALL DAY

                Educate yourself.
                Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 08-26-2021, 09:09 AM.

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                  #58
                  It is stacked by mediocre fighters.

                  Sorry, only Joshua and Fury would be a true competition for Klitschko brothers. Wilder is poor`s man Vitali. Joyce would be interesting matchup also.

                  Arreola is still around gatekeeping. Vitali beat Arreola 12 years ago. Wow, chisora is top 10 by boxrec. Vitali beat Chisora like 9 years ago.

                  Guys like Hrgovic, Parker, Ruiz, Gassiev, Hunter, Yoka, Ortiz...are nothing special. Kitschkos beat many that kind of guys and made them look really bad.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Stuart Chandler

                    Fury and Joshua are better than the Klitschko brothers .
                    Not. Joshua went life and death with 400 old Wladimir. Fury run from a rematch with 300 old Wladimir like a bi.tch.

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                    • Earl-Hickey
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                      It is stacked by mediocre fighters.

                      Sorry, only Joshua and Fury would be a true competition for Klitschko brothers. Wilder is poor`s man Vitali. Joyce would be interesting matchup also.

                      Arreola is still around gatekeeping. Vitali beat Arreola 12 years ago. Wow, chisora is top 10 by boxrec. Vitali beat Chisora like 9 years ago.

                      Guys like Hrgovic, Parker, Ruiz, Gassiev, Hunter, Yoka, Ortiz...are nothing special. Kitschkos beat many that kind of guys and made them look really bad.
                      On Areolla and Chisora, during the almighty klitschko era Hasim Rahman and Shannon Briggs were still around gatwkeeping, so what's your point again?

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