How Long Until Cubans Fully Learn Pro Boxing

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

    Loma comes to mind too

    great technique and skills

    but doesn’t fight with that mean streak that pros have

    Floyd loved to box and win on points, but he’d shift gears to hurt the opponent if pushed
    You think? I think Loma adapted really well post Salido tbh. I mean he was winning titles and beating guys like GRJ in his third pro fight. It’s hard to say he struggled to adapt based on that alone for me.

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    • brettWall
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      #12
      These fellas seem to have one thing in common aside from being Cubans. They don't smile. They always have dour look on their faces.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BreWall
        These fellas seem to have one thing in common aside from being Cubans. They don't smile. They always have dour look on their faces.
        Try living in a communist country where food is rationed and you can’t just get up and leave.

        not a fun lifestyle at all.

        I commend anybody who tries to find a way off an island for a better life.

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        • Toffee
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          #14
          Their entire boxing education was geared towards being lifetime amateurs. They don't have one eye on the pros.

          Not sure why it should come as a surprise.

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #15
            Originally posted by Toffee
            Their entire boxing education was geared towards being lifetime amateurs. They don't have one eye on the pros.

            Not sure why it should come as a surprise.
            - -They've adapted quite nicely the new American run and stink style that has left US boxing in the dumps with precious few obvious exceptions like Spence and Bud.


            Gamboa and Luis Ortiz are the only ones wanting to actually wage a fight. Gamboa could've been great, but just went off the rails. Also they come here only speaking Spanish and trusting fellow Cubanos who are terrible at managing or developing fighters, so they're double damned even if now they got some pocket change to jingle for the first time.

            Gonna be Ugh stinkfest come Saturday, so enjoy...

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            • BendOver
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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              If they turned pro younger they’d have far more professional styles. I think the problem is a lot of them spend a decade in the Cuban system so their amateur habits are completely drilled into them. Audley Harrison had a similar problem, not that he was anywhere near as talented as some of these guys but he also just couldn’t shake his amateur habits. Zou Shiming was another, as was Raushee Warren.

              IMO… Any none Eastern European/Eurasian amateur who’s spent a long time in their respective system will tend to struggle to adapt to the pro’s. The only reason I leave out these guys is because they generally have a pro type styles in the amateurs. If you look at guys like GGG, Beterbiev or even Khyzniak who won the Silver in Tokyo, they’re already walking guys down and looking to hurt guys in the amateurs. Instead of the point-scoring, hit-don’t be hit style of the Cubans.

              That’s obviously a generalisation though, there are guys on both sides who adapted and struggled to adapt.
              You nailed it. But before the 1972 Olympics, any Cuban could have walk into the professional system, after spending 10 years in the amateurs, and feel like home. I have invited a few nonbelievers to check Morell jr, Yoelvis Gomez, Ariel Perez, Pero and Fransua, I know they're others. That have defected with 19-20 years old, and the difference with other Cubans, that had defected older, is abysmal, with only a few fights under their belt.

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              • BendOver
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                #17
                Originally posted by BreWall
                These fellas seem to have one thing in common aside from being Cubans. They don't smile. They always have dour look on their faces.
                Get on a rubber tube and cross the Florida straits, then look your smile on the mirror.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #18
                  Cuban people speak weird Spanish.

                  the standard is Mexican Spanish….

                  They kinda fight Olympic style and many avoid wars…

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                  • kushking
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                    #19
                    Frank Sanchez is the most mexican style Cuban there is. If he ever wins a title he'll do Cuba proud & thats perfect style at hw

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                    • BendOver
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      Frank Sanchez is the most mexican style Cuban there is. If he ever wins a title he'll do Cuba proud & thats perfect style at hw
                      I think Bruzon, Ariel Perez and Gomez, like to brawl more than Sanchez.

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