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  • hugh grant
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    #161
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    You literally picked many of them to beat Floyd when the fight was announced. You definitely picked Manny, Shane and canelo.

    If you pick a guy to lose and he wins, just give credit and admit you were wrong. That is what mature adults do.
    I'm sure many boxing fans picked Pac to beat horn, Bradley and floyd, but Pac didnt. Should people be hard on themselves for predicting wrong?
    How much credit do you think people should give for their wins over pac?
    I know you want say it's better than.any Pac win, but it don't work like that I'm afraid
    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-17-2021, 11:57 AM.

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    • GrandpaBernard
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      #162
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing

      So let's agree that Floyd's main rival claim to fame is beating effing AB?

      JMM is on another level.
      You trying to change subjects to save what’s left of your face

      Originally posted by BillyBoxing

      Yeah, Manny used to have elite rival of his size unlike Floyd...

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      • ruedboy
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        #163
        Originally posted by LeOoze

        If you google it you can see that Maidana was 165 lbs and Floyd was 148
        My point is where do the numbers come from? Who did the weighing, what scale was used and were the fighters dressed or not?
        Another word for unofficial is unconfirmed.
        In the ring, except for Floyd's reach, neither guy had a noticeable size advantage. IMO

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        • Paperball86
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          #164
          Originally posted by b morph

          Floyd beat Pacquiao. Enough said.
          Frazier beat Ali... but Frazier is almost never ranked higher than Ali. Pacman jumped 39lbs in weight and beat champions in every division, while Mayweather jumped 22lbs and beat champions in every division. Pac got him by 17lbs of weight .how is Mayweather ranked P4P higher as an ATG? Curious because the proof is in the pudding. Joe Smith Jr KOd Bhop. Is Joe Smith Jr a better fighter than Bhop? C'mon bruh.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #165
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            I'm sure many boxing fans picked Pac to beat horn, Bradley and floyd, but Pac didnt.
            How much credit do you think people should give for their wins over pac?
            I know you want say it's better than.any Pac win, but it don't work like that I'm afraid
            None for Bradley because imo it was part of the Arum scam trilogy setup.

            Horn gets a lot from me. He beat Manny fairly.

            Floyd gets a lot because he was older and Manny was the #2 p4p ranked boxer in the world and the #2 ww.

            But this isn’t about me it’s about you. If you picked Manny to beat Floyd, as you did, you should give Floyd full credit for winning when you thought the other guy would.

            That what mature adults do.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-17-2021, 12:01 PM.

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              #166
              Originally posted by ruedboy

              My point is where do the numbers come from? Who did the weighing, what scale was used and were the fighters dressed or not?
              Another word for unofficial is unconfirmed.
              In the ring, except for Floyd's reach, neither guy had a noticeable size advantage. IMO
              It is well documented that Maidana weighed 165 lbs. If you want to deny it, it's on you. But you just look like a weirdo.

              Last edited by LeOoze; 08-17-2021, 12:50 PM.

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                #167
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                None for Bradley because imo it was part of the Arum scam trilogy setup.

                Horn gets a lot from me. He beat Manny fairly.

                Floyd gets a lot because he was older and Manny was the #2 p4p ranked boxer in the world and the #2 ww.

                But this isn’t about me it’s about you. If you picked Manny to beat Floyd, as you did, you should give Floyd full credit for winning when you thought the other guy would.

                That what mature adults do.
                You can't give Floyd full credit for beating a past prime Manny who had already been brutally ko'd. You just can't and your excuses don't cover up the facts. Who cares if somebody picked wrong that's just some backwards Floyd boy logic.

                You can give Marquez full credit for beating the Pac who was mowing down elite fighters but Floyd no. If he just fought the best guys in their prime you could throw your pom poms in the closet for a while

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  You can't give Floyd full credit for beating a past prime Manny who had already been brutally ko'd. You just can't and your excuses don't cover up the facts. Who cares if somebody picked wrong that's just some backwards Floyd boy logic.

                  You can give Marquez full credit for beating the Pac who was mowing down elite fighters but Floyd no. If he just fought the best guys in their prime you could throw your pom poms in the closet for a while
                  Pacquiao has gone on to keep winning after the Floyd fight. Including a big victory over Keith Thurman.

                  He obviously wasn't shot and still had a lot left in the tank when Floyd sonned him.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    None for Bradley because imo it was part of the Arum scam trilogy setup.

                    Horn gets a lot from me. He beat Manny fairly.

                    Floyd gets a lot because he was older and Manny was the #2 p4p ranked boxer in the world and the #2 ww.

                    But this isn’t about me it’s about you. If you picked Manny to beat Floyd, as you did, you should give Floyd full credit for winning when you thought the other guy would.

                    That what mature adults do.
                    With horns, Bradley's and floyd s win over pac there are varying levels of controversy that makes giving credit hard.
                    Only win over pac with no controversy was morales, he gets full respect, and even more so for giving rematch. The Floyd fight was easy say Floyd fans.? Well, I doubt after fight Pac felt he'd been 10 rounds with Mike tyson, it was like a sparring session
                    Floyd gets credit for beating Pac by Floyd s fans. That should be enough. Floyd s win over pac isn't greater than pac s best win though, you can forget that one
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-17-2021, 03:08 PM.

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                    • Amir Imam
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                      #170
                      Mayweather fought less opponents coming off losses, less vacant titles, less catchweights, more opponents with 30+ KOs, and never been knocked out

                      Pacquiao 8 vacant titles, 1 loss title on scale, 4 catchweights, 4 trilogies, knocked out 3 times

                      Couldnt beat a washed up Agapito Sanchez
                      Loss to a fighter with 16 fights Jeff Horn
                      Knocked out by a street vendor Sangsurat

                      Notorious excuse maker
                      Shoulder injury
                      Blood Test weakened him
                      Scared of needles
                      Bad gloves and wasn’t focused (Morales loss)
                      Thin Socks


                      Its not even close if we’re being honest. The only area people can say Pacquiao was better in is excitement and personality. They give Pacquiao so much praise for beating Margarito at 150 for a vacant title but the Canelo fight don’t count for Floyd

                      Mayweather will be talked about for years people don’t even mention Pacquiao any more.

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