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  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

    Whenever anyone thinks someone will beat floyd it's not necessarily because they think that fighter is really good but rather they're not convinced floyd is that good. Like I'm sure some people thought jm m would best floyd, I'm sure some thought 40 year old S sm would best floyd and that's because they thought floyd was overated.
    So when floyd did win, people realised floyd is better than they thought he was, but that's not saying much, because they're not saying beating a man 2 divisions smaller or beating a 40 year old makes it a great win.
    Stop embellishing Floyd's wins
    Whatever the reason you picked Floyd to lose but he won. If you picked him because you “didn’t think he was that good” then you should elevate him more because he proved he was by winning.

    He has many more wins than just those. He started at 130 and beat the #1 154 lb champion twice at a full 154.

    If you pick a guy to win and he loses and then you don’t give credit to the guy you picked to win, that shows you’re a weak, immature loser that can’t admit they were wrong.

    In your case that had happened like 5 times with Floyd, including him beating your favorites fighter and dominating a guy that Ko’d your favorite boxer.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Whatever the reason you picked Floyd to lose but he won. If you picked him because you “didn’t think he was that good” then you should elevate him more because he proved he was by winning.

      He has many more wins than just those. He started at 130 and beat the #1 154 lb champion twice at a full 154.

      If you pick a guy to win and he loses and then you don’t give credit to the guy you picked to win, that shows you’re a weak, immature loser that can’t admit they were wrong.

      In your case that had happened like 5 times with Floyd, including him beating your favorites fighter and dominating a guy that Ko’d your favorite boxer.
      Not sure what you're saying but bloating up fighters 2 divisions whilst cheating scales yourself and beating 40 year olds aren't great wins.
      Should have beat GGG at 160 and if Floyd beat GGG then we would apologise to Floyd for underestimating him in thinking GGG would win. Just like we did to Ali when he beat foreman and not make Ali underdog until hes 50 years old
      Last edited by hugh grant; 08-17-2021, 07:05 AM.
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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Not sure what you're saying but bloating up fighters 2 divisions and beating 40 year olds aren't great wins.
        Should have beat GGG at 160 and if Floyd beat GGG then we would apologise to Floyd for underestimating him in thinking GGG would win. Just like we did to Ali when he beat foreman and not make Ali underdog until hes 50 years old
        You picked them to beat Floyd so obviously they had to be great wins if he beat guys you felt were going to beat him.

        Why does Floyd need to go to 160? Very few men that started at 130 went on to fight at 160.

        Please name the pro boxers you know that did that?

        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-17-2021, 07:11 AM.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          You picked them to beat Floyd so obviously they had to be great wins if he beat guys you felt were going to beat him.

          Why does Floyd need to go to 160? Very few men that started at 130 went on to fight at 160.

          Please name the pro boxers you know that did that?
          You go off on a tangent. I never said I thought they'd beat him. And if there were people who thought Floyd would lose to them, and I'm sure there were it doesn't make it a great win. Please follow.
          If you thought Sam at 40 would best Floyd it's because you didn't think Floyd was that good.
          The bookies had Floyd favourite for a reason. SSM way past prime

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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

            You go off on a tangent. I never said I thought they'd beat him. And if there were people who thought Floyd would lose to them, and I'm sure there were it doesn't make it a great win. Please follow.
            If you thought Sam at 40 would best Floyd it's because you didn't think Floyd was that good.
            The bookies had Floyd favourite for a reason. SSM way past prime
            You literally picked many of them to beat Floyd when the fight was announced. You definitely picked Manny, Shane and canelo.

            If you pick a guy to lose and he wins, just give credit and admit you were wrong. That is what mature adults do.

            You thought they’d win because you’re a hater, not because you honestly didn’t think Floyd was any good.

            If you actually thought Floyd wasn’t good and that is why you picked him to lose, you’re an idiot.

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            • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Probably by outweighing by 17 lbs in the ring?
              Floyd is listed as an inch taller with a 3 inch reach advantage. They both weighed in officially under 147lbs for both fights.
              I haven't seen a weight for fight night and even if they're unofficial and not too reliable (fighters sometimes weigh in fully dressed etc.) if you have a link to one, it'd be interesting to see it.

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              • Originally posted by ruedboy View Post

                Floyd is listed as an inch taller with a 3 inch reach advantage. They both weighed in officially under 147lbs for both fights.
                I haven't seen a weight for fight night and even if they're unofficial and not too reliable (fighters sometimes weigh in fully dressed etc.) if you have a link to one, it'd be interesting to see it.
                If you google it you can see that Maidana was 165 lbs and Floyd was 148

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                • Originally posted by ruedboy View Post

                  Floyd is listed as an inch taller with a 3 inch reach advantage. They both weighed in officially under 147lbs for both fights.
                  I haven't seen a weight for fight night and even if they're unofficial and not too reliable (fighters sometimes weigh in fully dressed etc.) if you have a link to one, it'd be interesting to see it.
                  So? Diego Corrales is taller than Mike Tyson.

                  Madiana unofficially weighed 165, Floyd 148.

                  It’s not hard to see who the bigger man of the two is.

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    So? Diego Corrales is taller than Mike Tyson.

                    Madiana unofficially weighed 165, Floyd 148.

                    It’s not hard to see who the bigger man of the two is.
                    So your point is Corrales - Tyson is a similar situation to Mayweather - Maidana. OK

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                    • Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                      Floyd had a rival who was bigger than Floyd

                      his name was Maidana

                      and Floyd always beat his rival

                      manny got clapped by his rival
                      So let's agree that Floyd's main rival claim to fame is beating effing AB?

                      JMM is on another level.

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