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Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post
85% of the boxing world ? False.
I’ve trained in a lot of gyms in my country, and there’s many fighters who thought that was close. It was far closer than you want to make it out to be. Fact
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Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
Seriously. Like Manny decided to wait for the biggest fight of his life to fight to his opponents strengths and abandon his own, intentionally.
If he did, he's dumb AF and the loss is even worse.Last edited by Griever0730; 08-09-2021, 09:05 PM.SweetPbfAli likes this.
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Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
you have to approach every fight differently based on the style!!! just like when pac fights marquez, he has to slow down and pick his shots or he'll run into counters all night! isnt that what yall called "making adjustment"??????!!!!!! yall want pac to run in head first and get KO'd, but when that didnt happen, then yall said he loss..
his aggressive style works well against other come forward pressure fighters, because he can use his speed and throw his combos and then spin off when they are coming in... how is that suppose to be effective against a counter puncher who waits for you to come in and take lead?!! GEEZUS!!!
There's nothing wrong with doing one thing extraordinarily well like Manny. Also, the fear of being countered and the length, speed, and timing of Floyd is what caused exactly that. But sure, Manny and Roach devised a gameplan to outbox the greatest boxer of his generation. Sigh.
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Originally posted by Griever0730 View Post
I doubt it was intentional. He just couldn't get off bc he couldn't find Mayweather. That and the fact that he had to lunge in just to get in range. His physical disadvantages were more apparent than it was about lack of a gameplan. Gotta give credit to Mayweather. Nobody gets out of a fight with Pac as clean as he did. Even the guys that beat him came out damaged like they were beaten with brass knuckles. May did what he had to do to get the W. That's all that matters at the end of the day.
He beats any of the other tops Welters that night.
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Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
Agreed. Manny fought a good fight all things considered. Maybe he could've sold out some more but it came at a cost I don't think he was willing to take at that point in his career.
He beats any of the other tops Welters that night.
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Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
Which fights did Manny outbox the boxer? His aggression is the thing that made him an ATG. His speed, movement, subtle traps but let's not like act like he did not typically overwhelm people unless someone was able to control him to some degree and make him hesitant. JMM, Morales, and Mayweather specifically.
There's nothing wrong with doing one thing extraordinarily well like Manny. Also, the fear of being countered and the length, speed, and timing of Floyd is what caused exactly that. But sure, Manny and Roach devised a gameplan to outbox the greatest boxer of his generation. Sigh.
Video evidence supports it.
It's actually Pac that made him pay for over committing. Video evidence supports it.
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Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
Which fights did Manny outbox the boxer? His aggression is the thing that made him an ATG. His speed, movement, subtle traps but let's not like act like he did not typically overwhelm people unless someone was able to control him to some degree and make him hesitant. JMM, Morales, and Mayweather specifically.
There's nothing wrong with doing one thing extraordinarily well like Manny. Also, the fear of being countered and the length, speed, and timing of Floyd is what caused exactly that. But sure, Manny and Roach devised a gameplan to outbox the greatest boxer of his generation. Sigh.
those fighters you mention, morales, floyd, jmm... those are boxer type fighters... so when pac approach fighters like them, he has to switch up his style a bit .. which is called "adjusting"!!!!! isnt that what yall always talk about on here? a fighter's ability to "adjust"??!!!!
so you want manny to be aggressive against counter punchers??? why??? so that he can get counter and you can come on here and say "he cant make adjustment, he was running into punches all night"... FOH!!!!
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Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
bradley, vargas, broner, thurman, etc.... he wasnt aggressive like his usual self in any of those fights...
those fighters you mention, morales, floyd, jmm... those are boxer type fighters... so when pac approach fighters like them, he has to switch up his style a bit .. which is called "adjusting"!!!!! isnt that what yall always talk about on here? a fighter's ability to "adjust"??!!!!
so you want manny to be aggressive against counter punchers??? why??? so that he can get counter and you can come on here and say "he cant make adjustment, he was running into punches all night"... FOH!!!!
Those fighters were able to slow the fight down to a pace they were comfortable with and Manny adjusted to that. Some cases, he won, which is a testament to his greatness but let's be honest here.
What did Manny say in the post fight interview for Floyd? Something along the lines of "he wouldn't stand still"? It's almost like he never saw Floyd fight before.
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