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  • #51
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post

    Everyone who beat clottey barely beat clottey

    even prime pac didn't beat down clottey

    Clottey is one of those guys that are so good to just barely lose

    Pretty much a taller, bigger more polished porter in that regard
    Clottey wanted none of Pacquiao he stayed in his shell for a reason, the way Pac shut him down IMO is worse then getting TKOed.
    Last edited by strykr619; 08-04-2021, 09:28 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by strykr619 View Post

      Clottey wanted none of Pacquiao he stayed in his shell for a reason, the way Pac shut him down IMO is worse then getting TKOed.
      You're not wrong

      Clottey will have to live with it for the rest of his life

      Tbh with his chin, he could've hung in there with Pac

      Maybe make it close

      Get a rematch or at least get another big fight

      That fight ruined his career imo

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      • #53
        Originally posted by RightJabLikeZab View Post

        Yeah. Like he beat Bradley, got horrible robbery over Kotelnik, and also got a gift over Matthysse..all 3 fights before he...you know....won every round clearly against "prime Maidana".
        A lot of boxers can win rounds over maidana

        But maidana can win the fight with one good punch

        Seeing a featherweight Gamboa rock crawfords world.....

        Crawford could win every round until maidana lands one

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        • #54
          Crawford might be good, it’s difficult to say. Overall this crop of welters is a disappointment. So afraid to fight, not afraid of an asz kicking but afraid of losing that ‘0’.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post

            They do fight each other

            Thurman has fought porter and pac and Garcia

            pac fought Thurman and about to fight spence

            Spence has fought Garcia, porter and about to fight pac

            Porter has fought Garcia, spence and Thurman

            Garcia has fought porter, Spence, Thurman


            Only crawfish doesn't fight anyone
            The top WW's like Crawford-Spence-Thurman, they haven't fought each other.

            The only decent match-up was Thurman-D.Garcia and Porter had already taken a loss to Brook back in 2014.

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            • #56
              We might find out in a few weeks.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                First of all do you think that perhaps Crawford and Spence are both a bit of the ole eyetest? For me they're maybe just that touch above say an Ugas, a Porter I wouldn't even say a level or a cut above. They're just that little fraction better.

                I'm not mentioning Manny because its a given he has great success in any era and holds his own when compared to anyone and Floyds long retired so lets exclude them both please.

                Spence, Porter, Ugas, Crawford, whoever else you want to throw in from WW -
                How would they compare to lets just say that mid 80s American boxer-puncher era that was full of very tall, rangy, hard hitting and extremely fundamentally sound WWs? They wasn't these 5'6 & a whisker WWs with 69" reaches these were a good 5'10 and fought like it.
                Just extremely well schooled basics. Beautiful crisp punches that looked effortless, sharpness which I really do not see today, much at all actually.


                I am talking guys like Mark Breland, Donald Curry, Marlon Starling, Milton McCrory throw in a few underrated Brits from this era in Colin Jones and Lloyd Honeyghan
                Maybe also Simon Brown and whoever I've missed.

                How would they fare in this horribly underrated era largely ruled with this classic American style?

                Does Spence compete with guys who are just as big and have better fundamentals than himself? Can Porter have decent success or would it be Porter vs Brook 2 all over again? What about Crawford and the likes?
                It is very strong. It’s just divided. Then through in the divas and it makes matchmaking awfully hard

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                • #58
                  If GrandPac beats Spence then I believe it should be safe to say that this era is a soft one...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                    We'll find out soon on Aug 21 Errol vs manny

                    if today's best WW beats a 42 year old bad, it says this era good enough
                    Kinda like how Terry Norris beat the hell out of old Sugar Ray Leonard.

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                    • #60
                      This ERA of boxing in general is good...however it is NOT GREAT!

                      Only active Welterweight that is "GREAT" is Pacman. Spence, Crawford...while both are really good, I don't see All Time Greats not even close to that, hell I don't even think they're the most Talented in this current ERA. Boots Ennis is already physically more talented than those guys.

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