How strong is todays WW era?

[elfag]

Kinda like how Terry Norris beat the hell out of old Sugar Ray Leonard.

leonard was only 35 then and he was shot. people forget that 35 used to be ancient for boxers. now its common to still be at the high level at that age. beterbiev is 35 and on top of 175. floyd was 38 and retired as welter champion. pac 42, ect ect

the peds these days are what have made it so common for boxers to be 35+ and still on top of the young guys.

[bballchump11]

Yeah. Like he beat Bradley, got horrible robbery over Kotelnik, and also got a gift over Matthysse..all 3 fights before he...you know....won every round clearly against "prime Maidana".

Maidana became a different fighter with Robert Garcia and Alex Ariza.

[bballchump11]

leonard was only 35 then and he was shot. people forget that 35 used to be ancient for boxers. now its common to still be at the high level at that age. beterbiev is 35 and on top of 175. floyd was 38 and retired as welter champion. pac 42, ect ect

the peds these days are what have made it so common for boxers to be 35+ and still on top of the young guys.

Ray was "shot", but I think that version of him could still compete today at 154.

[elfag]

Ray was "shot", but I think that version of him could still compete today at 154.

compete a bit sure but he was there for the taking if they press him.

But anyways original point is just that was common through the late 90s that mid 30s was shot for a boxer. Talking overall trends here. Not talking one offs like a moore or foreman and talking about how common it is for late 30s to early 40s fighters to still be on top of a division these days. sometime in the early 2000s is when this really changed.

[dan_cov]

This ERA of boxing in general is good...however it is NOT GREAT!

Only active Welterweight that is "GREAT" is Pacman. Spence, Crawford...while both are really good, I don't see All Time Greats not even close to that, hell I don't even think they're the most Talented in this current ERA. Boots Ennis is already physically more talented than those guys.

In agreeance with this especially the latter.
I think that kids a very special talent. I honestly think that kids so good he is ready for them all right now.

This might not age well but when I see him I see shades of a prime RJJ. We need to see him get chin-checked and taken deep but skills, ability that is never in question.